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rocky... by iluvmysephia1
Mar 09, 2006 (9:39 am)
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are you talking about Drew Brees? He was signed by San Diego and still plays there, right? What Brees are you talking about? I must know! Rocky, do you realize that Seattle just re-signed Shaun Alexander(quite possible the finest running back ever in the NFL. Remember, he is just getting started in his career. He is on a virtual tear scoring TD's and gaining yards right now. The only reason he doesn't rack up huge rushing yards is because Seattle's offense is so powerful in the passing department and they don't need Alexander to pile those yards up).
 
Rocky, take me up on this. Go drive the new 2006 Kia Rio LX sedan or the 2006 Kia Rio5 hatchwagon. They are great cars and Kia still offers the wonderful Long-Haul Warranty. In my case I can pick and choose whatever car I want without family interference. I wouldn't listen to my family if they did disrespect my choice in cars, anyway. I'd politely tell them to jump in Lake Erie, right near that phony-baloney Rock and Roll Hall of Shame that won't induct Foghat into their R&R "Hall of Shame". What a buch of dorks they are. Think about this one: they inducted The Turtles, an American pajama-bottom band, and overlooked the greatest rock band ever, Britain's Foghat. And you can't e-mail them to complain because you'd interrupt their latte's and donuts and high-life there in Cleveland. Tee-hee.
 
Rocky, I truly want to see Detroit rise up in the NFL. Joey Harrington may or may not be their dude to help them get there, though.
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Think cars please by pf_flyer HOST
Mar 09, 2006 (11:30 am)
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NFL message boards are over THAT way----->>
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Re: rocky... [iluvmysephia1] by rockylee
Mar 10, 2006 (12:39 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Mar 09, 2006 9:39 am)

Sorry Pal, Brees has already been released. Check out ESPN or S.I. !!!! Phillip Rivers is your new starting QB. Brees is prolly going to Miami. Possibly to Green Bay.
 
Back on subject:
 
Unfortunatly, I had the oppertunity to ride in a Rio Lx sedan twice and I had back sores (well it felt like it) My grandmother (my moms, mother) had one a few years ago, and my friend Pracilla has one now. The seats are like sitting on a Cement Chair (think steps on a porch) and the gutless engine was louder than my grand dads chainsaw
BTW- I didn't like riding with my knees covering my ears.
I however had tears running down my face from all the smart comments my Aunts and my mom were making. I had my mom laughing so hard she honestly told me to stop because she was going to pee her pants. She was laughing at me because of the way I was packed in their like a sardine.
 
iluvmysephia1, with all do respect those cars shouldn't be allowed on the road pal. They are very dangerous. You'd get rear ended in Dallas or Chicago when accelerating and a Escalade or Hummer doesn't see you and uses your trunk like a speed bump. Really they aren't much bigger than a Jersey Bouncer.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way
iluvmysephia1, Your a great guy and I like you alot, and I am not going to tell you what to buy. But for the safety of your family and you, I'd like to see you upgrade to atlease a Sonata or Azera if money is an option and you insist on driving a Korean Car with the long warranty
 
Rocky
 
P.S. Joey will be fine.
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Chrysler Celebrates 1-Millionth PT Cruiser With 1-Billion-Dollar Investment by rockylee
Mar 10, 2006 (2:08 am)
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Date posted: 03-10-2006
 
TOLUCA, Mexico — DaimlerChrysler celebrated the millionth Chrysler PT Cruiser to roll off the assembly line on Wednesday, and the company is celebrating by announcing a $1-billion investment to upgrade the plant and build two supplier industrial parks.
 
The big new investment will be made jointly with suppliers, DaimlerChrysler said.
 
DaimlerChrysler has been building the PT Cruiser exclusively at the Toluca plant since March 2000, and the car is sold in 60 countries. On hand to celebrate the achievement were Mexican president Vicente Fox, Chrysler Group CEO Eric Ridenour, and executives of DaimlerChrysler and the union in Mexico. At the ceremony, DaimlerChrysler de Mexico managing director Joe ChamaSrour called the PT Cruiser "an important part of the DaimlerChrysler family."
 
What this means to you: Chrysler is betting on a sunny future in Mexico.
 
What this means to me
 
DC can keep those POS south of the border, until they can quit polluting the enviroment and pay those folks a livable wage so they stop coming over here.
 
Rocky
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Billionaires by rockylee
Mar 10, 2006 (3:10 am)
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http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/10/Rank_1.html
 
I didn't look through it all but I'm sure the Bush, Clinton, and Cheney family is somewhere on the list.
  
 
Rick Wagoner, will probably be on their once he pulls his golden chute out of the bag.
 
GM's Kerkorkian is on the list at 8.6 Billion
  
 
Bill Ford Sr. is on the list at 1.1 Billion. For somereason I'm not sure if I buy that small amount.
 
Rocky
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OMG by rockylee
Mar 10, 2006 (3:16 am)
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http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060310/BIZ/603100344
 
Mininum wage gets increased in Michigan
 
Way to go Jennifer Granholm
 
Rocky
 
P.S. Do any other states have a higher mininum wage than $5.15 an hour ?
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Michigan Billionaires by rockylee
Mar 10, 2006 (3:24 am)
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http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060310/BIZ/603100376
 
Mostly auto-related.
 
Rocky
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Capital markets will call halt to autodom's dilemma by rockylee
Mar 10, 2006 (3:44 am)
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http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060310/AUTO02/603100377/- 1148/AUTO01
 
The United Auto Workers may be smacking down talk that a landmark deal with General Motors Corp. and bankrupt Delphi Corp. is nigh, if only to calm edgy members clamoring for answers.
 
But a sweeping deal is likely, if not imminent, because a silent, powerful fourth player in this three-way drama -- the capital markets -- is making its presence felt. It will force a resolution to this Detroit conundrum, either at the bargaining table or in bankruptcy court.
 
Why? Because it can. How? Because publicly-traded companies and the unions who feed off them cannot survive without two things -- capital and the confidence that underpins it. Lose both and it's all over.
 
Look at GM's share price and debt ratings or Delphi's monthly cash burn. The capitalists who provide cash and credit to GM and are trying to recover some from Delphi aren't too confident that the parties can resolve their very ugly and very complicated problem.
 
Billions wasted
 
Understandably, too. GM and its Detroit-based rivals probably rank among the greatest destroyers of capital the modern industrial world has ever seen -- billions invested, billions spent on cars and trucks whose sales missed expectations, billions paid in wages and benefits that outstripped those paid by more productive and profitable competitors.
 
It was all in the pursuit of something other than what was wrought, which was declining market share, lower earnings-per-share, battered reputations and razor-thin profit margins.
 
With the exception of the SUV-fueled late '90s, the past 20 years don't instill confidence in capitalists anymore than in the hourly workers who don't make the decisions but have to live with their consequences.
 
Which is why these negotiations downtown are so difficult. They're demanding historic change to a 70-plus year relationship, justifying those demands with arguments that the world has changed (which it absolutely has) and assurances the companies have changed, too.
 
Break the cycle
 
That's debatable. Less so is the reality that the Detroit-based industry is burdened by a cycle of blame that views every negotiation as a zero-sum game.
 
Who cares what former GM Chairman Roger Smith did 20 years ago? Or how the UAW's decades-long monopoly on labor empowered it to drive costs higher with each new contract -- until the Asians landed down south and began to expose a yawning competitive gap?
 
What matters is fixing the problem.
 
Philosophically, these two sides will never see eye-to-eye. Not when one considers it standard procedure to grant bonuses equal to 50 percent of base salary in a good year, and the other sees nothing wrong with getting full wages and benefits to sit and do nothing, even in a bad year.
 
Capital doesn't much care who did what to whom and when. It just wants the cycle of mutual self-destruction to end. Otherwise, it will make sure that it does.
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I just saw the new CAMRY by daryll44
Mar 10, 2006 (6:06 am)
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This car could be the final death knell for GM and Ford. It will absolutely clean up. They finally fixed the "no pizzaz" thing. And with an available hybrid as well as efficient 4 and 6 cylinder engines...
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Re: I just saw the new CAMRY [daryll44] by rockylee
Mar 10, 2006 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: daryll44 (Mar 10, 2006 6:06 am)

It's a nice car, but I wouldn't go that far.
 
Rocky

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