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#3 of 32 Will they miss it again? by steve96 Oct 27, 2005 (5:13 am)
The Trailblazer and Envoy have one good thing going for them. A fantastic straight six and that's about where it ends. As gam2 notes, high beltlines, too much interior cladding, doodads etc. cut into interior space and visibility. I think my 96 bare bones S10 Blazer has more useful cargo area. There is a crying need out there for a really basic SUV and why not base it on the Colorado platform less the five cylinder. I don't need or want navigation systems, high zoot stereos, electronic 4WD systems etc. A lever on the trans tunnel to engage 4WD will do just fine. The best SUV I can ever remember was a brand new 1975 Chevy Suburban with a straight six, four speed manual etc. No A/C, radio, headliner. Zip. I drove that thing in a mining exploration camp in Northern Saskatchewan and it would go just about anywhere. Too low a profit margin I guess. Replies to this message: morey000 (Oct 27, 2005 6:39 am) jcat707 (Oct 27, 2005 11:01 am) jworkman (Mar 29, 2007 6:23 pm)
#4 of 32 Re: 2007 GMC Envoy, 2007 Chevy TrailBlazer [Sylvia] by burdawg Oct 27, 2005 (6:18 am)
Replying to: Sylvia (Oct 25, 2005 4:03 pm) From what I can see, it looks like a cross between an Equinox and a PT Cruiser. The cargo carry dimensions look smaller. I think I'm about out of the SUV craze myself, when our 02 TB is gone we probably won't go for another.
#5 of 32 Re: Will they miss it again? [steve96] by morey000 Oct 27, 2005 (6:39 am)
Replying to: steve96 (Oct 27, 2005 5:13 am) Steve, While I dont' criticize your desires and needs in any way- they don't match what the rest of the world seems to want in their SUVs. Look at the marketplace. If your SUV doesn't have a nav system, backup camera, memory seats, DVD player, 37 airbags, radio buttons on the steering wheel, etc, it's not competitive in the marketplace.   Also- the one thing that GM has always done pretty well is give you lots of options choices. From bare bones to loaded up. How can you argue with that? Replies to this message: jcat707 (Oct 27, 2005 11:01 am)
#6 of 32 Spyshots by navigator89 Oct 27, 2005 (7:40 am)
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=107665 Replies to this message: jworkman (Mar 29, 2007 6:09 pm) jworkman (Mar 29, 2007 6:09 pm)
#7 of 32 Re: 2007 GMC Envoy, 2007 Chevy TrailBlazer [Sylvia] by a_l_hubcaps Oct 27, 2005 (9:10 am)
Replying to: Sylvia (Oct 25, 2005 4:03 pm) Just FYI: reliable inside sources on other boards are saying these pics are not the next Envoy, but rather the 2008 GMC Acadia, which is on GM's new FWD/AWD Lambda platform, which will also spawn the 2007 Saturn Outlook, 2008 Buick Rendezvous and maybe a new generation of 2009 minivans to replace the current U-body vans. Word is that the major redo of the Envoy has been canned.   -Andrew L
#8 of 32 Re: Will they miss it again? [morey000] by jcat707 Oct 27, 2005 (11:01 am)
Replying to: morey000 (Oct 27, 2005 6:39 am) I've always thought that the Trailblazers and Envoys went too barebones. I understand that they are base models but things like keyless entry, cruise control, power mirrors, rear window defogger, and privacy glass should really be standard.
#9 of 32 Re: Go try the Nissan Murano by clarencehollow Oct 27, 2005 (2:30 pm)
Replying to: Sylvia (Oct 25, 2005 4:03 pm) I'll tell you folks something - I have had it with the domestic automakers, because I have seen the light and found a manufacturer here in the USA that makes a great SUV, many infact, that are in my opinion better than the Envoy, Trailblazer. My decision is based on pure economics. The Murano is also AWD which I like, and has available Navigation and Bluetooth.   The Murano hold it's value so well, it's embarrassing to GM. Do an Edmunds TMV on a 2004 TrailBlazer 4WD LT and the similar Envoy. You will be pricing out vehicles originally listing for low $30's. Trade in with 18,000 miles is 1/2 of that now. The Murano has a TMV in the high $20's ...   No comparison. We all want to save money right and invest wisely? You will be making that decision with these vehicles. PASS on the 2007 GMC Envoy. GM is going to take a big nose dive in 2007 - you will not want to be part of it, and NISSAN is picking up steam and the XTERRA was critically acclaimed today! For good reason if you drove one too.   So if you want to spend some money and really get nothing for it, please consider the Nissan Murano, or the XTERRA ... you will get a better made vehicle, better warranty, better residuals, and a vehicle that will actually retain most of it's value.   Nissan does not need huge discounts and rebates to move their vehicles - Quality speaks volumes. I am sorry, but if you drove the Murano or the XTERRA and looked at the real cost to you in terms also relating to value after a few years - the Nissan's will appeal and it will make sense.   Remember, Nissans are built by, sold by, service by and driven by Americans here in the USA. - you want a better SUV, Nissan has it - sorry GM, you guys are a day late, and will be a few dollars short very soon. Replies to this message: brybry (Nov 06, 2005 5:05 pm)
#10 of 32 really? by exalteddragon1 Oct 27, 2005 (11:15 pm)
Draping French controlled Japaanese owned Nissan in US clothing is akin to relaxing with a carona in an LA Quake.   Dude, whatever your smoking, share the love!   Now, as for these new SUV's for 2007, it would be really nice to see that amazing 4.2L engine with DoD and VVT apparently, used in some of GM's other cars!   Why can't the Cadillac CTS, or Pontiac G6 GTP have some 300hp? For the cadillac, we see the lexus IS is now passed 300hp!!!! GM has the right engine here, drop it in the cadillac!   This engine can also be used in the full size cars and ESPECIALLY minivans, like the terrazza. Why not? If GM can put in in a 30K chevy, why not any other 30K GM product?   We all know that the previous generation TB's had there share of problems, if GM really improves the interrior thats great, but they need to fix the quality issues too. These can be really great SUV's, lets see what happens. Replies to this message: navigator89 (Oct 28, 2005 12:06 am)
#11 of 32 Re: really? [exalteddragon1] by navigator89 Oct 28, 2005 (12:06 am)
Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Oct 27, 2005 11:15 pm) Regarding the GM minivans - they will get stronger engines for 2006. They will have a 3.9L, 240hp engine which is I believe the same one used in the upcoming Malibu and Malibu Maxx SS.   I think the Pontiac G6 GTP will also get the same engine.   The Grand Prix GXP does have 303 hp. No sense in having the smaller G6 with a similar number.   And the Cadillac CTS? A new one is coming out in 2007, so just wait a little while longer.......
#12 of 32 The problem is, by exalteddragon1 Oct 29, 2005 (9:28 am)
that the competition has better engines. TOyotas 3.5 makes 300+hp in the Lexus. If GM really has a 6 cyl that can do that, they need it now. They need to dominate the market, now just match what other people are doing. Same goes for Ford.   Nissan has 250hp? Put in 275 on your G6. Toyota has 306hp Put in that I6 with 300+ hp of your own Honda has 300hp V6 that will find its was down the line soon, put in more power!   Do not let them have the upper hand! GM is doing better and better in quality, its time for the feautes and power to be there too!

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