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GMC Envoy, Chevrolet TrailBlazer, SUV
#1 of 35 2007 GMC Envoy, 2007 Chevy TrailBlazer
Oct 25, 2005 (4:03 pm)
The GMC Envoy will be redesigned alongside its twin, the Chevrolet TrailBlazer, come model year 2007.
#2 of 35 I'll be first!
Oct 27, 2005 (4:31 am)
What is it with these high beltlines???? Visibilty sucks! There are so many blind spots and you feel like you are riding in a coffin. Honda has it right with a nice big greenhouse. I won't pass judgement on the looks but GM better get the rest of it right out of the box! The first 2 years of the previous Triplets were full of problems.
They need to price them right also. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
#3 of 35 Will they miss it again?
Oct 27, 2005 (5:13 am)
The Trailblazer and Envoy have one good thing going for them. A fantastic straight six and that's about where it ends. As gam2 notes, high beltlines, too much interior cladding, doodads etc. cut into interior space and visibility. I think my 96 bare bones S10 Blazer has more useful cargo area. There is a crying need out there for a really basic SUV and why not base it on the Colorado platform less the five cylinder. I don't need or want navigation systems, high zoot stereos, electronic 4WD systems etc. A lever on the trans tunnel to engage 4WD will do just fine. The best SUV I can ever remember was a brand new 1975 Chevy Suburban with a straight six, four speed manual etc. No A/C, radio, headliner. Zip. I drove that thing in a mining exploration camp in Northern Saskatchewan and it would go just about anywhere. Too low a profit margin I guess.
#4 of 35 Re: 2007 GMC Envoy, 2007 Chevy TrailBlazer [Sylvia]
Oct 27, 2005 (6:18 am)
From what I can see, it looks like a cross between an Equinox and a PT Cruiser. The cargo carry dimensions look smaller. I think I'm about out of the SUV craze myself, when our 02 TB is gone we probably won't go for another.
#5 of 35 Re: Will they miss it again? [steve96]
Oct 27, 2005 (6:39 am)
While I dont' criticize your desires and needs in any way- they don't match what the rest of the world seems to want in their SUVs. Look at the marketplace. If your SUV doesn't have a nav system, backup camera, memory seats, DVD player, 37 airbags, radio buttons on the steering wheel, etc, it's not competitive in the marketplace.
Also- the one thing that GM has always done pretty well is give you lots of options choices. From bare bones to loaded up. How can you argue with that?
#7 of 35 Re: 2007 GMC Envoy, 2007 Chevy TrailBlazer [Sylvia]
Oct 27, 2005 (9:10 am)
Just FYI: reliable inside sources on other boards are saying these pics are not the next Envoy, but rather the 2008 GMC Acadia, which is on GM's new FWD/AWD Lambda platform, which will also spawn the 2007 Saturn Outlook, 2008 Buick Rendezvous and maybe a new generation of 2009 minivans to replace the current U-body vans. Word is that the major redo of the Envoy has been canned.
#8 of 35 Re: Will they miss it again? [morey000]
Oct 27, 2005 (11:01 am)
I've always thought that the Trailblazers and Envoys went too barebones. I understand that they are base models but things like keyless entry, cruise control, power mirrors, rear window defogger, and privacy glass should really be standard.
#9 of 35 Re: Go try the Nissan Murano
Oct 27, 2005 (2:30 pm)
I'll tell you folks something - I have had it with the domestic automakers, because I have seen the light and found a manufacturer here in the USA that makes a great SUV, many infact, that are in my opinion better than the Envoy, Trailblazer. My decision is based on pure economics. The Murano is also AWD which I like, and has available Navigation and Bluetooth.
The Murano hold it's value so well, it's embarrassing to GM. Do an Edmunds TMV on a 2004 TrailBlazer 4WD LT and the similar Envoy. You will be pricing out vehicles originally listing for low $30's. Trade in with 18,000 miles is 1/2 of that now. The Murano has a TMV in the high $20's ...
No comparison. We all want to save money right and invest wisely? You will be making that decision with these vehicles. PASS on the 2007 GMC Envoy. GM is going to take a big nose dive in 2007 - you will not want to be part of it, and NISSAN is picking up steam and the XTERRA was critically acclaimed today! For good reason if you drove one too.
So if you want to spend some money and really get nothing for it, please consider the Nissan Murano, or the XTERRA ... you will get a better made vehicle, better warranty, better residuals, and a vehicle that will actually retain most of it's value.
Nissan does not need huge discounts and rebates to move their vehicles - Quality speaks volumes. I am sorry, but if you drove the Murano or the XTERRA and looked at the real cost to you in terms also relating to value after a few years - the Nissan's will appeal and it will make sense.
Remember, Nissans are built by, sold by, service by and driven by Americans here in the USA. - you want a better SUV, Nissan has it - sorry GM, you guys are a day late, and will be a few dollars short very soon.
Oct 27, 2005 (11:15 pm)
Draping French controlled Japaanese owned Nissan in US clothing is akin to relaxing with a carona in an LA Quake.
Dude, whatever your smoking, share the love!
Now, as for these new SUV's for 2007, it would be really nice to see that amazing 4.2L engine with DoD and VVT apparently, used in some of GM's other cars!
Why can't the Cadillac CTS, or Pontiac G6 GTP have some 300hp? For the cadillac, we see the lexus IS is now passed 300hp!!!! GM has the right engine here, drop it in the cadillac!
This engine can also be used in the full size cars and ESPECIALLY minivans, like the terrazza. Why not? If GM can put in in a 30K chevy, why not any other 30K GM product?
We all know that the previous generation TB's had there share of problems, if GM really improves the interrior thats great, but they need to fix the quality issues too. These can be really great SUV's, lets see what happens.