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Re: 6.4L diesel [bewhite25] by rjennings
Mar 03, 2007 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: bewhite25 (Jan 13, 2006 12:04 am)

Yes the 6.4 is also a International engine, which they just
stopped delivering to Ford. Something about Ford not paying
for the engines. But it has 2 turbo's instead of one that
way it will cost you 8 thousand dollars to replace them
instead of the normal 4. I've been buying Ford diesel F-350's
since the late 1970's take it from some one who knows, get
the extended warranty and don't do any modifications to the
truck if you want the warranty to be honored.
#36 of 355
Re: Ugly truck, hope the engine's better [jonjon70363] by rjennings
Mar 03, 2007 (7:02 pm)
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Replying to: jonjon70363 (Nov 02, 2006 3:05 pm)

My father has a 04 6.0 F-350 4X4. Like you say the engine is
a complete piece of Junk. I have a 99 7.3 F-350 4X4 which is
a little better. I would like to throw this out for kicks
for the last 10 years or so all of the major diesel makers
have been producing engines for a medium truck market. You
know the trucks we refer to as 2 or 3 ton trucks. Those are
the trucks you see every day delivering soda pop, Beer and
things like that to stores retail outlets of all kinds. Heres the deal, these type of small commercial trucks put more miles on their engines in one year than most people will for the entire time they own a 1 ton. Most of these Diesel Engines are in the 7 to 9 liter size and make from
800 to 1200 ft lbs of torque, because they are used in a
commercial setting if their is anything wrong with the
design of the engine they not only figure it out very
soon after the engine hits the market but it is fixed. I
don't mean just installing a new part, I mean that the
manufacturer will redesign the defective part until they
get it right. Some of these mid size Diesel engines are
very well proven. Know here's the real point to all of this
the current engines that are being used in 1 ton size
trucks weight around 1100 to a little over 1200 pounds.
The mid sized engines weight about 1500 pounds. The
differance of 3 to 4 hundred pounds could easily be
compensated for in the truck design, it;s not really that
big of a deal when you are talking about a truck that
weights over 6 thousand pounds. Not to mention the large
selection of tranny's that can mate up to these engines.
You would think that instead of trying to reinvent the
wheel, that one of the big 3 would be smart enough to just
select a well proven 8 or 9 liter engine, put a fuller 10
speed on the back of it and mount it in a 1 ton truck.
You would finally have what people really want and need.
Heck Mercedes-Benz has a 7.2 liter Diesel called the MBE
926 that makes 330 HP and 1000 pounds of torque, it weights
1235 pounds and is considered a million mile engine. It has
proven itself exstremly reliable in medium duty trucks.
I'm sure Mercedes would love to sign a contract for 50,000
more engines than they sold last year. All in all it's
easy to see why the domestic truck makers are hurting.
know one running them has any common sense.
#37 of 355
Re: 6.4L diesel [rjennings] by kcram HOST
Mar 03, 2007 (7:17 pm)
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Replying to: rjennings (Mar 03, 2007 6:02 pm)

The specifics of the legal issue between Ford and International are over warranty costs of the early 6.0 engines. Ford claimed that International didn't pay their agreed percentage of the warranty costs, and so Ford subtracted that amount from what they were scheduled to pay International. In response, International claimed they "were not paid" for engines as per the contract and halted shipment.
 
Ford announced that the Louisville Super Duty plant will be cut from three daily shifts to just one starting Monday march 5 until further notice.
 
kcram - Pickups Host
#38 of 355
Court orders engine shipments to resume. by mschmal
Mar 04, 2007 (8:05 am)
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-070301navistar,0,2083337.story?coll=c- - hi-bizfront-hed
 
This is all just legal maneuvering. Ultimately Ford will have to pay a reasonable price for new engines and Navistar will have to pay its fair share of warranty costs.
 
This really seems like a stupid lawsuit as no court will likely give either party 100% of what its asking for, as the latest court order shows. They are just running up legal bills. This should have gone to arbitration or mediation months ago.
 
Mark.
#39 of 355
tracking my 2008 order by automite
Apr 03, 2007 (7:29 am)
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would someone post the tracking website for new truck orders? saw it on edmunds a long time ago. would like to display the progress of my truck order....thx
#40 of 355
08s sd by snowtoad
Apr 05, 2007 (8:08 pm)
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u no i have no clue why u guys would want to buy a deisel? im on my 2nd v-10. i looked at the price of the 6.4 if remember it was over 6gs for that option, then u strap that high dollar trans. on it ur looking at close to 8gs. now u stop and think about this, how far would u drive to get any recoup cost of getting a deseil? now im going to educate u guys on the differance. on my 1st v-10 01 extend cab 4x4 3.73 5 spd man. i was getting 18 on the hwy.if i keep my foot out of it i could squeeze 15 around town. these numbers r not just mind. various guys were getting them numbers with there v-10s wif man.[some guys tickle that 19 mpgs]. i no the deseils r getting little bit better, but buying a deseil because they get little better fuel milage. yep how long would it take it on what im getting gas milaage? long time. then top it off look at the fuel price differance. real long time.
yep deseils got long jevety but that isnt the case any more i talk fellow that had 2 v-10s [both 99s]the one he was driving had over 250,000 miles on it his 2nd one had over 450,000 on it. and he had no problems wif them engine wise. now granted these were 99s they problems that yr model.
the resale on deseil i think r reduclus the market is flooded wif deseils and lots of wif low milage. to me u lost ur money if ur trade wif low miles!
yes deseils have a purpose if ur NOT doing a lot of towing i think ur wasting ur money.
my 2nd v-10 06 cc 4x4 4.10 wif 6spd man. i love it! its looking like this one might not get as good of gas milage as my 1st one mabe 16 to 17 on the highway 12 to 13 around down. but still way head of the game looking at the price of fuel for both types. this no brainer.
  
as for the 08s i dont think they r to bad. to much of that big going on tho.
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Diesel is the worst mileage vehicle on the market by luken
May 17, 2007 (11:55 am)
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Just read an article claing the Lamborghini is the worst mileage vehicel sold at 9MPG...well my brand new 2008 6.4ltr Diesel gets me less than that, Highway, with no load...less than 6MPG on the Highway with a load.
 
I am so pissed off. The guy above is 100% correct. The V10 is a way better buy, way cheaper, better fuel economy and you dont have to hunt for a pump to fill up.
 
Shame on Ford
#42 of 355
When you should buy a diesel. by mschmal
May 22, 2007 (6:29 am)
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1. You tow more than the V10 can handle; or
2. You drive more than 20,000 miles per year.
 
If you purchased a diesel for ego's sake alone, as one of these two conditions do not apply, then that is your problem.
 
As for the 6.4 gettign poor milage, not of my customers or as far as I know, customers at my dealership have complained.
 
Mark.
#43 of 355
2008 Mileage Experience From Owners by buyer2008
May 22, 2007 (9:55 am)
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I was about to order a 2008 F-250 Lariat with the 6.4 diesel until I read some of the reviews stating they only got 6,7 or no more then 9MPG empty!!! In the USA Today review, Ford indicated that the MPG of the test vehicle was abnormally low. To date, I have not read of anyone getting more than 10 MPG driving empty with the new engine. This sounds bizarre. Surely there are some folks getting better than this. If you are a new owner of the 2008 F-250 Diesel equipped truck, could you please post your actual mileage? I don't want to make a 50K mistake!!! Thanks!
#44 of 355
Re: 2008 Mileage Experience From Owners [buyer2008] by buyer2008
May 22, 2007 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: buyer2008 (May 22, 2007 9:55 am)

Additionally, if there is anyone who has purchased the 2008 V-10 I would be curious to know your mileage as well. My current towing needs would probably be satisfied with the V-10. I was considering the Diesel for future possibilites but at the diesel MPGs I am reading about I am no longer sure....the V-10 is looking better everyday!
Thanks for any input. Dave

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