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#30 of 353 6.0 ford by rich422006 Feb 05, 2007 (10:14 am)
#31 of 353 Re: 6.4L diesel [rich422006] by wpalkowski Feb 06, 2007 (4:26 am)
Replying to: rich422006 (Feb 05, 2007 10:14 am) First year '03 model had lots of birthing pains. Took several iterations of engine control software to get it right. There were a bunch of other problems with oil and coolant leaks, turbo tubes blowing off, the "thrum" and the "romp", etc., etc. They had a lot of the problems resolved by end of '03. But there is still a higher incidence of problems than there was with the previous 7.8L Powerstroke. When it runs right, 6.0L is supposedly a wonderful motor, but when it's got problems, it's driving folks nuts. IMHO Ford goofed, Navistar has this engine running great on its own vehicles, but in an effort to save cost, Ford decided to redesign all the engine controls when they contracted with Navistar to build the engines for them. I think the Ford bean-counters shot themselves in the foot.   Ford went with the new 6.4L engine to be able to meet the new much stricter emmissions standards for diesels, and to be able to handle ultra low sulphur diesel fuel. Hopefully they learned a hard lesson with the 6.0L
#32 of 353 6.4 also matches Duramax in torque by mschmal Feb 06, 2007 (10:18 am)
It is my understanding that the 6.0 was unique among diesels in using both electronics AND oil pressure to control fuel injection. All other engines were one or the other.   Oil viscosity variations change engine performance. PLUS Ford did not get the word out DO NOT MOD THIS ENGINE.   Mark.
#33 of 353 Re: What is Ford THINKING!?! 2007 Superduty [fordguy300] by rich422006 Feb 11, 2007 (9:49 pm)
Replying to: fordguy300 (May 09, 2006 5:35 pm) The New Super Duty is on the lots!!! Check this one out. Ebay # 300080190123 This dealer is going for list price. I wish i knew exactly what the dealer pays for their trucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#34 of 353 Re: Powerstroke 6 liter disaster? [akenaten] by rjennings Mar 03, 2007 (5:51 pm)
Replying to: akenaten (Apr 02, 2006 4:00 pm) The answer to that is most definitely YES, I can not get my mind around a company as big as Ford putting out on the market such a complete piece of junk. And if you know people that have to really work a truck for a living Dodge and GM are not much better. Ford, Dodge and GM have been doing this to us since the 1970's and than they cry bloody murder and try to give use a guilt complex about not being patriotic enough when we are forced to buy something made in Japan, I for one am sick and tired of them peeing on my head and telling me it's only raining.
#35 of 353 Re: 6.4L diesel [bewhite25] by rjennings Mar 03, 2007 (6:02 pm)
Replying to: bewhite25 (Jan 13, 2006 12:04 am) Yes the 6.4 is also a International engine, which they just stopped delivering to Ford. Something about Ford not paying for the engines. But it has 2 turbo's instead of one that way it will cost you 8 thousand dollars to replace them instead of the normal 4. I've been buying Ford diesel F-350's since the late 1970's take it from some one who knows, get the extended warranty and don't do any modifications to the truck if you want the warranty to be honored. Replies to this message: kcram (Mar 03, 2007 7:17 pm)
#36 of 353 Re: Ugly truck, hope the engine's better [jonjon70363] by rjennings Mar 03, 2007 (7:02 pm)
Replying to: jonjon70363 (Nov 02, 2006 3:05 pm) My father has a 04 6.0 F-350 4X4. Like you say the engine is a complete piece of Junk. I have a 99 7.3 F-350 4X4 which is a little better. I would like to throw this out for kicks for the last 10 years or so all of the major diesel makers have been producing engines for a medium truck market. You know the trucks we refer to as 2 or 3 ton trucks. Those are the trucks you see every day delivering soda pop, Beer and things like that to stores retail outlets of all kinds. Heres the deal, these type of small commercial trucks put more miles on their engines in one year than most people will for the entire time they own a 1 ton. Most of these Diesel Engines are in the 7 to 9 liter size and make from 800 to 1200 ft lbs of torque, because they are used in a commercial setting if their is anything wrong with the design of the engine they not only figure it out very soon after the engine hits the market but it is fixed. I don't mean just installing a new part, I mean that the manufacturer will redesign the defective part until they get it right. Some of these mid size Diesel engines are very well proven. Know here's the real point to all of this the current engines that are being used in 1 ton size trucks weight around 1100 to a little over 1200 pounds. The mid sized engines weight about 1500 pounds. The differance of 3 to 4 hundred pounds could easily be compensated for in the truck design, it;s not really that big of a deal when you are talking about a truck that weights over 6 thousand pounds. Not to mention the large selection of tranny's that can mate up to these engines. You would think that instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, that one of the big 3 would be smart enough to just select a well proven 8 or 9 liter engine, put a fuller 10 speed on the back of it and mount it in a 1 ton truck. You would finally have what people really want and need. Heck Mercedes-Benz has a 7.2 liter Diesel called the MBE 926 that makes 330 HP and 1000 pounds of torque, it weights 1235 pounds and is considered a million mile engine. It has proven itself exstremly reliable in medium duty trucks. I'm sure Mercedes would love to sign a contract for 50,000 more engines than they sold last year. All in all it's easy to see why the domestic truck makers are hurting. know one running them has any common sense.
#37 of 353 Re: 6.4L diesel [rjennings] by kcram HOST Mar 03, 2007 (7:17 pm)
Replying to: rjennings (Mar 03, 2007 6:02 pm) The specifics of the legal issue between Ford and International are over warranty costs of the early 6.0 engines. Ford claimed that International didn't pay their agreed percentage of the warranty costs, and so Ford subtracted that amount from what they were scheduled to pay International. In response, International claimed they "were not paid" for engines as per the contract and halted shipment.   Ford announced that the Louisville Super Duty plant will be cut from three daily shifts to just one starting Monday march 5 until further notice.   kcram - Pickups Host
#38 of 353 Court orders engine shipments to resume. by mschmal Mar 04, 2007 (8:05 am)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-070301navistar,0,2083337.story?coll=c- - hi-bizfront-hed   This is all just legal maneuvering. Ultimately Ford will have to pay a reasonable price for new engines and Navistar will have to pay its fair share of warranty costs.   This really seems like a stupid lawsuit as no court will likely give either party 100% of what its asking for, as the latest court order shows. They are just running up legal bills. This should have gone to arbitration or mediation months ago.   Mark.
#39 of 353 tracking my 2008 order by automite Apr 03, 2007 (7:29 am)
would someone post the tracking website for new truck orders? saw it on edmunds a long time ago. would like to display the progress of my truck order....thx

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