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BMW 3-series vs Lexus IS

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What is this discussion about? Lexus IS, Lexus IS 250, Lexus IS 350, BMW 3 Series, Sedan

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#780 of 1527 Re: Well [habitat1] by brightness04

Mar 01, 2006 (9:42 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Mar 01, 2006 5:48 am)
You think so? Seven years ago (at 40) she ran the Marine Corp. Marathon 5 months after a C-section and beat the time she last ran it at the age of 25. Last year, she beat that time at the Boston Marathon. Driving a manual transmission may be a challenge for you (and/or your wife if you have one), but it is hardly something my wife would consider a badge of accomplishment. It's a personal preference based upon REAL experience. So keep your inexperienced BS speculation to yourself.
 
Thank you for further proving my point with more of your bragging. BTW, I did not now the Marine Corp Commandant was a 40-yr old woman seven years ago. I'm sure she really appreciates a husband that stands up for her "BS speculating" another person's experience.
 
You have ir-rationalized every reason in the world why we should all be driving automatic transmissions.
 
Never said everyone should be driving an automatic . . . merely pointing out the obvious that manual is not a prequalifier for anything . . . nor is it even correlated to sportiness, as your manual Trooper amply proved.
 
So I have to agree, the electronic nanny-ized, slushbox IS350 was made just for you
 
In case you did not realize, BMW has been at the forefront of pushing electronic nannies for over a decade, since the days of the first AST-C and DSC. Having seen many BMW's running off the road here in the snow belt, I think BMW was very astute to be at the forefront of making safer cars.
 
But be forewarned, if you ever grow up and get bored of stomping your foot on the gas and want to actually learn how to really drive a "sports sedan", don't apply to Skip Barber driving school. They don't teach on automatics. Take it up with them as to why
 
What the heck does Skp Barber have to do with sports sedans anyway? Most of their halo cars are sport coupes. Sedans are compromise choices to begin with. So why is your rational necessarily superior to mine? Considering that some 80-90% of all sport sedans are purchased with automatics, and with electronic nannies since circa 1996, when BMW introduced DSC . . . and probably less than 0.1% of all sports sedan buyers ever went to Skip Barber school of whatever, sports sedans, Lexus or BMW, are more made for guys like me than you, just to borrow some of your obnoxiousness. Of course, personally, I don't mind your personal pursuit of pure sports car experience in pseudo-luxury sports sedans; your money, your business. Just don't lable the other 80-90% of the sports sedan market "inexprience, inability or . . . lazyness"

#781 of 1527 Re: Well [brightness04] by 2001gs430

Mar 02, 2006 (9:21 am)

Replying to: brightness04 (Feb 28, 2006 12:54 pm)
Can you say "over-compensating"?
 
That's funny... I thought that's what you'd call guys who own over the top sport cars.
 
In any case, saw the new IS350 at the dealer while waiting for 60K service. It's a handsome vehicle inside and out. However, I would never buy this car with MT even if the option were available. Toronto traffic is just too ugly for it, unless one takes public transportations during those rush hours...

#782 of 1527 Re: Well [2001gs430] by dewey

Mar 02, 2006 (9:41 am)

Replying to: 2001gs430 (Mar 02, 2006 9:21 am)
I have always driven manual while living and working in downtown Toronto. Personally I would rather read a newspaper or book in the subway than drive any car(AT or MT) during rush hour.

#783 of 1527 Re: Well [dewey] by mikegiller

Mar 02, 2006 (9:48 am)

Replying to: dewey (Mar 02, 2006 9:41 am)
You must not drive a Lexus then I guess!
 

#784 of 1527 Consumer Reports Rating?? by rats13

Mar 02, 2006 (10:42 am)

Does anyone else find it curious that Consumer Reports give the IS 250/350 an above average reliability and recommended and the BMW 3 Series gets a n/a reliability rating because it's a "new model." Last I checked they were both new cars AND prior 3 series were getting good reliability ratings too.
 
Seems unfair to me

#785 of 1527 Re: Well [dewey] by 2001gs430

Mar 02, 2006 (11:01 am)

Replying to: dewey (Mar 02, 2006 9:41 am)
I used to live down town Toronto too. The traffic there is is bad even on weekends. Grocery shopping trips on Saturday could take up to 20 minutes to cover the approx 2km distance from home to the super market.
Back to the topic, when I was shopping for my GS, I looked at BMW 3/5 series and Lexus IS/GS, one of the things that turned me off from BMW is the cost to insure the vehicle. A 328 was about $500/yr more to insure than the GS430. I bought the GS because it has more power with a much nicer interior than the IS300; it would have been a no brainer if the IS350 were available.

#786 of 1527 Re: Consumer Reports Rating?? [rats13] by bdr127

Mar 02, 2006 (11:36 am)

Replying to: rats13 (Mar 02, 2006 10:42 am)
Does anyone else find it curious that Consumer Reports give the IS 250/350 an above average reliability and recommended and the BMW 3 Series gets a n/a reliability rating because it's a "new model." Last I checked they were both new cars AND prior 3 series were getting good reliability ratings too.
 
CR's Japanese bias...

#787 of 1527 Re: Consumer Reports Rating?? [rats13] by mikegiller

Mar 02, 2006 (12:13 pm)

Replying to: rats13 (Mar 02, 2006 10:42 am)
Not as strange as using braking test results from a different model generation BMW 3 series in a comparison test.
 
Maybe they haven't had experience with the e90 yet.
 
I didn't know that '3' buyer's care about reliability and CR anyways..

#788 of 1527 Re: Consumer Reports Rating?? [mikegiller] by rats13

Mar 02, 2006 (3:01 pm)

Replying to: mikegiller (Mar 02, 2006 12:13 pm)
Well they've had no experience with the IS350 either. It does seem bias that the BMW is dubbed inconclusive because it is a new model and the Lexus is recommended better than average on its new models.
 
And Yes I am a "3 buyer" and I DO care about reliability of my next car. Maybe that just me.

#789 of 1527 Re: Consumer Reports Rating?? [rats13] by mikegiller

Mar 02, 2006 (3:40 pm)

Replying to: rats13 (Mar 02, 2006 3:01 pm)
And I bet you do. Sorry, I was just having a little fun.
 
I agree, it does sound strange, but I don't know if it has anything to do with bias; bias would be rating it poorly. If it doesn't have a rating yet, I would say that they didn't make a deadline for finding it out before the data had to be published in the report; that's what I think had happened.
 
I would like the 3 a whole lot more if I didn't like the IS so much.
 

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