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You are in the BMW 3-Series
What is this discussion about?
Lexus IS, Lexus IS 250, Lexus IS 350, BMW 3 Series, Sedan
#623 of 1527 Re: brightness [ivan_99]
Feb 21, 2006 (3:49 pm)
As I recall the NSX engine itself did not make the car competitive. It was the complete package and particularly the handling that caused the car to be rated high in comparison tests.
Only the engine was brought up in this discussion because I was replying to a post about engine. The rest of the car is quite out of the scope of this forum.
I know you meant JUST the engine…the 1993, 270hp and 210 lb-ft (at high rpm) of torque does not compare very well to today’s modern engine. The turbo BMW 3 series of 300hp and 295 lb-ft at 1500rpm definitely has a more flexible engine...if specs are your thing that is.
In case you missed it, the 320hp 325ft-lb Supra turbo engine of 1993 was comparing to the 2006 BMW turbo engine. The NSX' engine was being compared to the 255hp and 215lb-ft normally aspirated 3L. For 15 year's difference, you are welcome to draw your own conclusions on both the turbo pair and non-turbo pair.
BTW, I agree with you that HP/L is a fool's game. What really matters is power, torque and fuel consumption, plus some other detail such as packageability . . . after all we do want some crumple zone
#624 of 1527 Re: Lexus the Mighty [brightness04]
Feb 21, 2006 (3:52 pm)
If the road is slippery with snow, your E90 3L will slide off the road at 90 long before even the lowly AWD highlander does.
And you higlander will slide off the road before a Zamboni! Your example is highly irrelevant.
I never bought my BMW because of the way it drives on snow. And I have never slid off any road so far these past eight years in snow-blown Toronto.
#625 of 1527 Re: Lexus the Mighty [dewey]
Feb 21, 2006 (3:54 pm)
I'd like to see a Zamboni that does 90 on either straights or curves
BTW, the irrelevance was exactly what I was trying to point out with KD's 90 in a curve scenerio . . . none of the three cars would be left in a dust at those speeds. It all boils down to tire and road condition if any of them starts sliding.
#626 of 1527 ohhhkay
Feb 21, 2006 (3:58 pm)
I say let's get back to comparing the subject vehicles and we get farther from that than we've ever been.
If anyone wants this comparo to continue, they need to step up and post something appropriate to the topic.
#632 of 1527 Off topic messages removed
Feb 21, 2006 (4:23 pm)
still waiting for someone interested in the subject of this discussion to join us ...