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BMW 3-series vs Lexus IS

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What is this discussion about? Lexus IS, Lexus IS 250, Lexus IS 350, BMW 3 Series, Sedan


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Re: Easy comparo [zcar3] by texasmerq
Oct 21, 2005 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: zcar3 (Oct 21, 2005 8:25 am)

Yes I know. I had inadvertantly replied to your post instead of the other one. Sorry for the confusion. I believe that Audi has the Quattro coming to the A3 2.0T and DSG will also be offered exclusively on the A3 3.2 Quattro IIRC. I also agree with you that the 2.0T pulls a lot and the car feels a little unbalance without Quattro.
 
OTOH I didn't experience that level of fun with the IS250 RWD, but the IS350 was at least a lot more entertaining than the IS250.
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Re: Easy comparo [blueguydotcom] by thomaspeterdub
Oct 21, 2005 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Oct 20, 2005 9:34 pm)

For this novice, could you please inform what is BMW CCA and how do you join/cost to get the stated discount, which sounds too good to be true. Many thanks.
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Re: Reliability [texasmerq] by g17
Oct 21, 2005 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: texasmerq (Oct 21, 2005 7:59 am)

Its not a theory son, its the experience; your Mom's MB experience is good. I have 9k in warranty work done this year alone, and mines an '03! MB puts out garbage compared to years past. As for BMW, it has zero appeal to me, especially with their latest design attempts. Of course no manufacturer puts out a trouble-free car. But it seems Lexus attempts to put out the LEAST trouble-free.
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Re: Reliability [g17] by texasmerq
Oct 21, 2005 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: g17 (Oct 21, 2005 10:24 am)

Wow, that's your personal experience. Oh BTW my sister's MB is an '04 and she doesn't have any problems either so I don't know what you are talking about. Oh yeah, and please don't refer to me as "son" that's a very derogarotory term. Besides I am very much a man in every sense of the word.
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Re: Easy comparo [thomaspeterdub] by texasmerq
Oct 21, 2005 (11:38 am)
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Replying to: thomaspeterdub (Oct 21, 2005 9:00 am)

BMW CCA = BMW Car Club of America... I would assume anyway.
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Re: Reliability [g17] by dewey
Oct 21, 2005 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: g17 (Oct 21, 2005 10:24 am)

But it seems Lexus attempts to put out the LEAST trouble-free.
 
That may be the case but that does not prove that BMWs are notoriously unreliable.
My 7 years of owning a 99 BMW323 has been a low maintenance/repair affair.
 
My anecdotal evidence will not persuade anybody and should not persuade anybody. But it has certainly persuaded me to overcome any fears of buying a future BMW!
 
Will I buy a BMW(most likely the BMW e90)? Maybe? All depends on how it compares with other vehicles during my own personal test drives.
 
Bottom Line: Buy the car that excites you. If you focus solely on CR/JD Power stats you may end up owning a highly competent and reliable transport appliance (YAWN!!)
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Re: Reliability [dewey] by g17
Oct 21, 2005 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 21, 2005 11:41 am)

"That may be the case but that does not prove that BMWs are notoriously unreliable."
 
Thats relative. Compared to Lexus they are. Compared to Pontiac they may fare better....There's always exceptions. All I'm saying is Lexus generally appears to be on top in this category, and everyone else is looking up. An honest BMW or MB exec would admit that Lexus is a more reliable vehicle.
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Re: Reliability [dewey] by texasmerq
Oct 21, 2005 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 21, 2005 11:41 am)

Bottom Line: Buy the car that excites you. If you focus solely on CR/JD Power stats you may end up owning a highly competent and reliable transport appliance (YAWN!!)
 
Excellent point and that brings up another thought. I personally don't trust those CR/JD Power reviews because I use to work for a company that actually use to conduct he actual marketing surveys and compile the data for those publications. Some of the shady tactics that the various companies use,and truthfully they pretty much all do them, are what turned me off to those publications as reliable sources. I was on several of the marketing teams myself when I worked there and to be nice about it- the market studies are a joke. I honestly would say the auto enthusiast magazines are far more credible when it comes to long term reviews although it's major fault is that there is only 1 long term test car so the model's reputation can rise and fall on that one tester car.
 
Edmunds is the best accessible source I have personally found as you can communicate with owner's although you should take some of the thoughts with a grain of salt like on any forum.
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Re: Reliability [g17] by dewey
Oct 21, 2005 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: g17 (Oct 21, 2005 11:50 am)

First and foremost this forum is not about MBs!
 
Also this forum is not about the brands BMW and Lexus!
 
This is about BMW e90 vs. the Lexus IS!
 
Have you looked at the stats?? Can you please point out statistically where the BMW3 had a below average rating for more than two years? Is the reliability that bad? I dont think so!
 
My point is reliability may be the sole criteria for you but I am not buying a Maytag dishwasher, I am buying a car that will maximize my enjoyment! And that to me is the most important criteria in choosing a car!
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Re: Reliability [texasmerq] by dewey
Oct 21, 2005 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: texasmerq (Oct 21, 2005 11:57 am)

I personally don't trust those CR/JD Power reviews because I use to work for a company that actually use to conduct he actual marketing surveys and compile the data for those publications.
 
It ceases to amaze me how anybody could use the CR and JD Powers as their sole criteria for purchasing a car!

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