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BMW 3-series vs Lexus IS

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What is this discussion about? Lexus IS, Lexus IS 250, Lexus IS 350, BMW 3 Series, Sedan


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Re: IF ONLY THE IS350 COULD [cdnpinhead] by jimbres
May 04, 2007 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (May 04, 2007 5:06 am)

Your fold-down rear seat requirement certainly thins out the herd. I don't need that, so my search is a little easier.
 
I'm intrigued by what I've read about the upcoming Cadillac CTS & I'm just unstable enough to find the idea of a stick-shift Caddy perversely appealing. By the time I'm ready to buy anything, the new CTS will have been on the market for 2 years. If it hasn't disgraced itself by then, I'll look closely at it.
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Re: IF ONLY THE IS350 COULD [jimbres] by circlew
May 04, 2007 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (May 04, 2007 5:49 am)

Unless the others in the ELLPS category can beat the 3'er in the suspension department, you will end up with a good but not class-leading experience strictly in terms of performance, IMO. Power is no longer an issue and features should take a back seat to the driving dynamics.
 
Said another way, BMW has already raised the bar with the 335.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: IF ONLY THE IS350 COULD [circlew] by louiswei
May 04, 2007 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: circlew (May 04, 2007 6:47 am)

Said another way, BMW has already raised the bar with the 335.
 
Don't know about "raised the bar". More like came even with the other players...
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Re: IF ONLY THE IS350 COULD [jimbres] by cdnpinhead
May 04, 2007 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (May 04, 2007 5:49 am)

". . . .I'm just unstable enough to find the idea of a stick-shift Caddy perversely appealing. . . ."
 
I know exactly what you're saying here, BTW. I had the same idea when I bought my Lincoln LS in 2000 with a manual -- the first one for Lincoln in 47 years or something like that. The car's fine, but FLM left it high & dry, along with all the fools who bought it the first year for at or near invoice. So, fool me once. . .
 
I've heard quite a few good things about the CTS, and the next iteration may be an excellent car, especially after the first year or so to work the bugs out.
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Re: IF ONLY THE IS350 COULD [circlew] by jimbres
May 04, 2007 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: circlew (May 04, 2007 6:47 am)

You might be right, but we'll just have to see how the world looks in 2 years. Brand loyalty is not one of my virtues. I'll look at everything that gets past my filter.
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Re: IF ONLY THE IS350 COULD [cdnpinhead] by jimbres
May 04, 2007 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (May 04, 2007 7:28 am)

Funny thing... Back in early '01, the LS was near the top of my short list. Regrettably, none of the local LM dealerships wanted to make it possible for me to test-drive a car with a manual. One salesman stopped just short of telling me that I was mentally ill. (Well, I am, but I don't want to hear that from a car salesman.) Another suggested that I drive 3 hours upstate, where I might find a dealer with a suitable demo. After my test-drive, I should then come back downstate & order a car through him. While he's telling me this, he's leaning against an LS that's sporting wide whitewalls & a dealer-applied faux convertible top. It was pretty clear that this fine car wasn't getting the corporate or dealer support that it deserved. It was sad.
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Re: 2006 BMW 3-series vs. 2006 Lexus IS [legar] by vegaszen
May 04, 2007 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: legar (Oct 20, 2005 8:42 pm)

I am buying 335 07 over Lexus.
 
Better feeling, handling, and strong engine.
I know without a doubt can handle my very very very fast speeds with absolute confidence.
 
I test drove Lexus, really liked it a lot. I tell other people they should buy one.
But for me and my 'spirited' driving; only BMW.
 
If BMW ever really pisses me off.
I would buy that IS in a hearbeat.
Realy good looks, AIR comes THROUGH their seats! that was really cool.
decent power, nice interior.
 
Just doesn't ride or corner as good as BMW.
 
K
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Re: IF ONLY THE IS350 COULD [louiswei] by circlew
May 04, 2007 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (May 04, 2007 7:10 am)

Not in the suspension performance.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: IF ONLY THE IS350 COULD [jimbres] by circlew
May 04, 2007 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (May 04, 2007 7:58 am)

OK but it's not about brand loyalty. It's about the best performance. If the 335 had a Caddy badge, it would still rate at the top, IMO.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: IF ONLY THE IS350 COULD [circlew] by jimbres
May 04, 2007 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: circlew (May 04, 2007 10:24 am)

My crystal ball is broken, so it's hard for me to say today what will move me 2 years from now. Given that the 3-series has been the top dog in the handling department for what seems like forever, it's reasonable to assume that not much will happen during the next 2 years to change that.
 
But the E90's styling does not move me at all. It's certainly not a bad looking car, but in my eyes it's a step backward from the E46. The first time that I saw that generation, back in 1999, I was filled with lust. I had to own that car. And looking at my 2001 330i still gives me great pleasure. I still look over my shoulder as I walk away from it. By contrast, when I see an E90, I think, "Well, that's nice". It manages not to give offense, but that's about it.
 
Because my BMW is a weekend fair weather pleasure ride, the miles are low. And that means that 2 years from now, I may well decide that all I need is a new set of tires to keep me happy for another 2 years.

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