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Sedans BMW 3-Series BMW 3-series vs Lexus IS
1527 messages, Last post on May 20, 2009 at 1:33 PM
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Replying to: jerry k (Feb 22, 2007 3:58 pm) |
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Replying to: jerry k (Feb 22, 2007 3:58 pm) The IS driving dynamics leave something to be desired, something supplied by the BMW. I enjoy driving as well, which, from from your point of view, renders me immature. Thanks so much. Enjoy your Toyota. |
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Replying to: jerry k (Feb 22, 2007 3:58 pm) BTW, don't you think your boast of saving $8,000 over a "comparable" 328i is a bit disingenious? I just configured the two as I would buy them and came out to an honest difference of $5,000, not at all too much of a premium for a far superior car in pretty much every aspect. Then again, I wouldn't have to pay anywhere near $5,000 extra for a "comparable" 328i. Why? Well, the family wants another vacation in Europe, and instead of renting a car for two weeks, I'd simply do the ED thing again. Hmmm, let's see, save $5,000 off of MSRP and save another $1,500-$2,000 by not having to rent a car in Europe. The 328i is the far better deal. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: jerry k (Feb 22, 2007 3:58 pm) I feel for you Jerry - you should have bought a Camry. I'm over 40 and on a quest to make my car faster and less comfortable. By the way, I built a "fully equipped" IS250 (auto, luxury plus, nav/ML stereo) and came up with an MSRP of $42,117 (invoice $36,652). A fully equipped 328i (premium, nav, logic 7 stereo, xenons, park distance, comfort access, heated seats) came out to an MSRP of $42,830 (invoice $39,540). Sorry to doubt you, but it is absolutely impossible for a "fully equipped" IS250 to cost $8,000 less than a 328i. |
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Replying to: jerry k (Feb 22, 2007 3:58 pm)  . I can't wait for her to arrive. Guess I am young at heart  . I tested them all. No luxury compared to the sheer joy of driving the 3-series. BTW, I did not pay $8,000 more than a comparable-equipped IS250, far less than that. Wait, actually, there is no comparable-equipped IS250 because no manual transmission is offered. 
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Replying to: habitat1 (Feb 15, 2007 4:06 am) I concede that the 335 handles better than the IS350. But the overall package that the IS350 offers is superior to any 3 series BMW except for the M3. The IS350 compensates for lesser handling with superior speed. Here's reality for you - I've taken my IS350 to the quarter mile track and ran a 13.8 and smoked a new Pontiac GTO. I ran a 13.8 consistently over several runs. On that tank I averaged over 20 mpg. I've driven my IS350 on one of the most fun and challenging public roads in the country (touge style canyon running) and it performed well. And I'm taking it to a performance driving school on a formula style track in March. I'm confident enough in the IS350 to shell out good money for a performance driving school using my car, not a rental or loaner. The IS350 can use a few improvements, which Toyota surely will provide in coming years. As it stands today, I would go head to head with your 3 series in my IS350. If you're ever in Central Texas, let me know. Let's see if you're willing to take your car to its limits.
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Replying to: carmonkey (Feb 22, 2007 8:16 pm) BTW, C&D tested the 335i last November and got 13.6 in the 1/4 mile and 4.9 seconds 0-60. Yes, the IS350 is a very quick sedan, but you should be careful to check the chrome digits glued to the trunk lid before you challenge a 3-series BMW! |
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Replying to: shipo (Feb 22, 2007 6:43 pm) Oh to the guy above who believes the cars are comparably priced - I got my IS 250 for $32,000 - and it would have cost me close to $40,000 for a comparably equipped 328! |
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Replying to: jtla (Feb 22, 2007 7:45 pm) I was going to say that I am young at heart as well (However, about 15 years older than you) I am retired - just bought a home near the beach (Central Ca. Coast) and run 20 miles weekly. Have lived all over the world - and enjoy the finer things in life - and that includes my IS 250!
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Replying to: jerry k (Feb 22, 2007 10:43 pm) No disrespect intended. I have nothing against IS250, either, but simply took an exception on on your drawing the line at 40 years of age for car choices and the kid/immature remarks on 3-series buyers in general. As to the price difference, I suspect that you are comparing the purchase price of your IS250 with the MSRP of a "comparable equipped" 328i. What is the MSRP of your IS250? Also, I guess you paid cash for the car, so any price difference would translate into actual saving for you. However, for people who lease, BMW, with its low rates and high residuals, offers much better "value" than other contenders in this segment, IMHO. The lease payment on my close-to-$40k-MSRP 328i will be less than $460 with tax included and no money down. Taking into consideration the free (or "prepaid", as some people like to call it) maintenance, I believe its monthly cost of ownership will be lower than that of IS250, G35, or TL -- on a lease basis. You apparently have lived a fine and healthy life, and enjoyed BMW once. I might choose my car differently 15 years from now. Congrats on your new home and new car. Enjoy them!
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