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Sedans BMW 3-Series BMW 3-series vs Lexus IS
1527 messages, Last post on May 20, 2009 at 1:33 PM
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| Lexus beats BMW at all model levels in reliability, why should this be any different. My entry-level lux. is my commuter car so it needs to be reliable. I couldn't care less about cornering at high speeds as if I were filming an Earnest & Julio Gallo wine commercial thru the mountain roads of Europe. I drive on the NJ Tpk, I pass lots of BMW's on the road taking advantage of their road-side assistance. Until BMW or MB for that matter makes a better car I'm done with them. | |
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 20, 2005 10:54 pm) As far as ventilated seats - what is the word on them? Do they really work? I ask because IMO they look extremely cheap - they make a nice leather seat look like pleather. Now if they really functioned as advertised it may be worth it...
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Replying to: g17 (Oct 21, 2005 4:50 am)
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Replying to: tyorder1 (Oct 21, 2005 6:13 am) What I don't have a good handle on is BMW reliability. Annecdotal evidence of BMWs seen on the road side are just that - annecdotal. I'm looking at both of these cars and reliability is without a doubt an issue. I've found some interesting info: the JD Powers Initial Quality Study for 2005 had Lexus first (of around 20 manufacturers), with 81 problems per 100 vehicles. BWM third with 95, while the idustry average was 118. (Full story and graph: http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pressrelease.asp?ID=2005069) According to this, yes, the Lexus is more reliable, but the difference is small. But there has to be more information out there than just this. Does anyone have good sources of reliability information on these cars? I realize both the new IS and 3-series are too new though, so we'll have to settle for the previous models...
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Replying to: g17 (Oct 21, 2005 4:50 am) The reason Lexus has a better reliability is because they are never driven aggressively…because either they can’t or you wouldn’t want to. The new IS should change this trend. As I recall the previous GS has a reliability rating worse than the rest of the Lexus family…because it was driven “a little more” aggressively. From my own personal experience I’ve never seen a Lexus pushed over 2K rpm. I usually get stuck behind these people. I still think reliability is related to demographics…with Lexus covering the geriatrics club. The couch analogy comes in here. Give a similar couch to a frat house, and give one to grandma. Drawing a conclusion about the couch’s reliability wouldn’t make sense in this situation, but for auto’s we do it all the time.
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Replying to: tyorder1 (Oct 21, 2005 6:13 am) So like why I'm going to have to believe that every manufacturer has the ability to make a great trouble-free car the same way they can make a dud. Oh and as far as Mercedes reliability my mom and my sister both have them. neither one of them never have a problem with theirs. All they do is routine maintenance. There goes your theory there too. That's just the honest truth though when all is said and done.
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| The BMW 3 won't leave you stranded. It's more like weird niggling things will go wrong with the car. | |
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Replying to: zcar3 (Oct 21, 2005 5:18 am)
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Replying to: texasmerq (Oct 21, 2005 8:07 am) On the other hand, I didn't experience that level of fun excitement driving the IS 250 (AWD auto). It downshifted slowly and wasn't nearly as light feeling. Audi needs the 2.0T Quattro model...
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