Last post on Nov 15, 2007 at 8:12 AM
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Honda Odyssey, Nissan Quest, Toyota Sienna
#82 of 90 Re: Ease of folding 3rd row into the floor? [dennisctc]
Nov 12, 2007 (9:41 am)
While Stow-n-Go is certainly the most flexible, I sort of doube someone with a bad back will find it easy to flip and fold those seats. Even worse, imagine having to bend down and pick those seats out of that hole with a bad back.
Ain't happening. I've sprained my back. No way could I have bent over and lifted anything.
I'd say the easiest 2nd row would definitely go to Nissan. In the Quest, the seats just lean forward, and there's no heavy lifting.
Sadly, Nissan's 3rd row may be the very worst - it doesn't even split fold!
#83 of 90 Re: Ease of folding 3rd row into the floor? [ateixeira]
Nov 12, 2007 (4:14 pm)
I sort of doubt anyone with a bad back would find it even possible to remove the 2nd row seat from all other minivans. You'd have a much better chance of storing the Stow N Go seats then any other, except maybe the Nissan's but then Nissan's don't really store (they're still there) and give you a flat floor, they just fold on top the floor.
I had to go out to my 2005 with Stow N Go and try this, since it's been a year since I had the seats out of their pockets.
Actually there's no heavy lifting in the Stow N Go seats, the trickiest part is the lid covers. The seats themselves are spring activated and tumble into the storage hole with no effort whatsoever. Just pull on the release tab then the spring tumbles them into the floor. To get them out - lift cover, pull handle and they tumble back into place. Pulling the handle requires the most effort of the entire exercise because you're pulling against gravity, but even then the spring offers leverage. It's not you against the entire weight of the seat! There's no need to "pick" seats out of a hole - you make it sound difficult and troublesome - that's hardly the situation.
FYI - next year T&C Limited will off full power 2nd and 3rd row storage.
#84 of 90 Re: Ease of folding 3rd row into the floor? [dennisctc]
Nov 13, 2007 (1:17 pm)
I agree that removing the seats with a bad back is simply not an option. They're all too heavy.
In the Sienna they fold and tumble forward. You pretty much only have to pull the knob. They're not entirely out of the way, but it requires no effort at all. Lifting is harder, of course.
I'll take your word for it with the Stow-n-Go, as I haven't tried those in a while.
Perhaps the question should be - what is the owner going to load in all this space with a bad back? It's not like you can lift anything that big.
If you're getting help loading then I'm sure you could get help folding seats, I suppose.
#85 of 90 Re: Ease of folding 3rd row into the floor? [ateixeira]
Nov 14, 2007 (10:51 am)
With the new Oydessy you can handle the folding seats with 2 fingers
#86 of 90 Re: Ease of folding 3rd row into the floor? [ducksdad007]
Nov 14, 2007 (10:53 am)
The 3rd row, you mean?
I believe the 2nd row doesn't tumble forward, at least last time I tried one (2007 model). You have to lift them out, correct?
#87 of 90 Re: Ease of folding 3rd row into the floor? [ducksdad007]
Nov 14, 2007 (11:06 am)
On my Dodge, there's 3 straps labeled 1, 2, and 3. With one finger you can do all three steps. On a 2008 there's one button to push, requiring only the tip of a finger - not even your entire finger!!!
#88 of 90 Re: Ease of folding 3rd row into the floor? [dennisctc]
Nov 14, 2007 (11:13 am)
And remember, Toyota and Dodge offer power folding 3rd rows.
#89 of 90 Re: Ease of folding 3rd row into the floor? [ateixeira]
Nov 14, 2007 (5:39 pm)
They may, but I drive a CE, and I have had a heckuva time getting my 3rd seats to unfold..... don't know why, but I have. And for me to bend for any length of time, which I have to do to fold or unfold those seats, will cause my back to hurt. And since I am single, sometimes there's not someone around all of the time to help. And yes, reading the directions does help, just not my back! The second row seats do tumble..... the salesman did it the other day when he was trying to move one over for me.
#90 of 90 Re: Ease of folding 3rd row into the floor? [siennami]
Nov 15, 2007 (8:12 am)
Put one foot on the bumper for leverage.
I've sprained my back and one thing I learned to do is never lift with my back. I will at least brace myself with my other arm, or let my knees do the lifting.
It's hard when you are reaching in, though, so try the foot on the bumper step idea.