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Honda Odyssey, Nissan Quest, Toyota Sienna
#61 of 90 Re: Best seating storage [samnoe]
Feb 22, 2006 (10:42 am)
About the DCX vans, I own a '05 Dodge GC, and I must admit that the rear seats are NOT very comfortable. The middle row seats are small, and even with the headrests pushed up, it will never feel the same as a full padded seat with comfy armrests (like the pre-2005 DCX vans and current Sienna & Ody), and the rear seats are even worse, you sit with your knees up like you're taking off in a jet.... Plus the seats are way too firm, despite Chrysler's claim that this is a special foam developed and used by NASA...
I never sat in the third row seats and don't plan to. The grand kids set back there.
The second row seats are narrower and firmer and although they will never feel as soft as a full seat, I don't think you can say they are uncomfortable. I have ridden in them.
Also, since DC vans introduced the stow'n'go system, the van is much noisier than before, you hear the engine and muffler noice much louder than pre-2005 vans.
I have never owned a minivan before, but the only noise I hear is from the tires. My brother has a 2001,( I think I said before it was a 1991) and he said mine was much quieter than his. No rattles at all. If you are complaining of engine and muffler noise, getting it sprayed with an under coatng would probably do wonders for it.
#62 of 90 Re: Seat comfort
Feb 22, 2006 (12:15 pm)
Seats should be comfy for the grand children as well. As I drove so many minivans before, and also drive now one at work (besides my own), I know what I'm writing. It's no question that the new stow'n'go system is very good and is the way to go. but the seats are inferior to the DC vans prior to 2005, and is "MORE" uncomfortable than before. HOW MUCH uncomfortable remains subjective.
I drive a 2003 T&C at work, and the ride is smoother and much quieter than my '05 Caravan. Even CR agrees and says that since '05, noise levels has increased. I CAN spray with under-coating? Thanks for the suggestion (I'll probably never do it), but still, the van is more noisy in the first place, despit Chrysler's claim that the van is now 16% quieter than before (due to added sound insulation under the hood).
The rear seats of the Sienna and Ody are much more comfortable & padded, these minivans were built with the rear seat folding into the floor in mind, so they created a big well behind the 3rd row, and made the rear seat big and padded enough. Chrysler & Dodge, on the other hand, created them as an "afterthought" - the current generation minivan was built with a regular seat in rear with no well behind the 3rd row, (hence, the well in the DC vans are way smaller than those in the Sienna/Ody). And that's why the seats are so thin padded. I'm certain that the next gen DC vans will be competitive in that area.
#63 of 90 Re: Seat comfort [samnoe]
Feb 22, 2006 (12:38 pm)
"Chrysler & Dodge, on the other hand, created them as an "afterthought" - the current generation minivan was built with a regular seat in rear with no well behind the 3rd row, (hence, the well in the DC vans are way smaller than those in the Sienna/Ody). And that's why the seats are so thin padded. I'm certain that the next gen DC vans will be competitive in that area."
That I would believe. In addition, the seatbelt systems and seat cushion angle can make child seat installations in the third row very difficult compared to many other minivans. Stow 'n Go is a great concept, just like the folding 3rd row seat was. The first implementations were functional, but there was still a lot of room for improvement. Just look at how the folding third row seats are now for comfort and convenience compared to the original designs. Stow 'n Go will be copied, just as it will also be improved.
#64 of 90 Re: Seat comfort [cpsdarren]
Feb 22, 2006 (12:56 pm)
It will be interesting what Chrysler does with the new generation coming out next year with them. I understand they intend to keep stow-n-go, so I am sure they will get better. Only wish I had leased my van so I could get the new one. I'm keeping this one till the warranty runs out.
#65 of 90 Re: storage [rorr]
Feb 24, 2006 (5:48 pm)
I know there aren't a lot of Nissan Quests out there on the road, but the 2nd row folding seats offers a virtually flat cargo area and are much more comfortable than the Caravan. I tested the Sienna, but did not try the fold flat passenger seat; with the 2nd row seats tumbled forward, is there a open space all the way to the front?
#66 of 90 Re: Quest seats more comfortable? [ckeough]
Mar 03, 2006 (8:56 pm)
NOT in the Quests I have closely examined. And there was too little space for the toes under the seats for 2nd or 3rd row passengers.
The Odyssey, Sienna, T&C, and Grand Caravan had more comfortable seats for me than did the Nissan Quest...in all rows. However, the biggest turn off for me was the ghastly instrument panel of the Quest.
#67 of 90 Re: Quest seats more comfortable? [hansienna]
Apr 19, 2006 (6:46 pm)
The2nd row seats also move fore and aft so you can add extra leg room for 3rd row passengers.
#68 of 90 Which Minivan has easiest seat storage?
Jun 06, 2006 (11:37 am)
It wouldn't be the Dodge/Chrysler. But when you consider how easy they do store and how much storage space they have when seats are up. there is nothing out there to beat them.
#69 of 90 seat storage...
Jul 26, 2006 (11:52 am)
the Chrysler twins have the easiest, lowest profile seat storage, but I think stow and go seats seem flimsy.
#70 of 90 Re: seat storage... [cwesleyg]
Sep 13, 2006 (8:21 am)
There is nothing flimsy about them at all. Both rows lock in place when upright with a solid latching mechanism, no squeeks, no rattles, and the seat structure is very rigid, in both rows. Floor covers are very rigid and solid as well. About the only thing one can complain about them is they are definitely firm, though not, in my opinion uncomfortable, and the second row seats are a bit smaller than the equivalent captains chairs before Stow and Go.
Hard to beat the ease of storing them, however, and when upright, you have storage space under the floor that equals the trunk space of some sedans.