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Honda Civic, Coupe, Hatchback
#996 of 1035 Re: impressive but pointless [eldaino]
Oct 11, 2007 (5:09 pm)
I always thought dumping money into an economy car to make it something it was never designed for was kind of silly. Taking a $20k car and dumping $10k into it just never made any sense to me when you could buy a $30k car that would be faster more often than not,still keep the new car warranty reliability and drivability. Not to mention that most insurance policies will only pony up what a stock car is worth if it's ever stolen or wrecked.
About the only thing sillier in my mind are the people who buy a $1,000 car and spend $8k on wheels and a really loud stereo.
#997 of 1035 Re: impressive but pointless [punkr77]
Oct 12, 2007 (6:46 am)
who says the car has to be 20K? My buddies civic cost him a few grand to purchase, and his total out of pocket cost was about 10k and he has enough performance to run with a 50k car.
Not to shabby in my opinion. It may not be everyone's 'thing' but everyone spends money, and sometimes a lot, on things that another person wouldn't. On a newer car it makes less sense, but the warranty isn't a real issue if you are the kind of guy who likes to work on your car and are only after performance...in other words a total moot point.
I to agree with the buying of a 1k car and adding 8k wheels, but thats not what were talking about.
#998 of 1035 Re: rattletrap [droman]
Oct 13, 2007 (3:33 pm)
I just purchased a 2007 Civic SI Coupe. Generally, I like the car, but the are a lot of rattles. The dealer attempts to fix them ,but I am disappointed in buying a new car and having so many rattles to live with. Most of mine come from the right side of the car. Has anyone had the same problem and were you able to get this resolved. Most of the problem seems to come from the right door -- I would like to know if this is something that can be solved. Other than that, I am pretty happy with the car.
#999 of 1035 Re: rattletrap [laynetc]
Oct 14, 2007 (9:58 am)
The only noises I've encountered with mine are a slight rattle from the sunroof sometimes and some front suspension "popping".
The sunroof thing only seems to happen when I've just pulled out of the garage. The alley behind my house is pretty rough and uneven, so I think it's just "settling in" after first being driven after me parking it in the garage and closing it.
The popping only happens at very low speeds when I hit a large bump. Usually pulling out of inclined driveways or out of businesses onto a street.
I wouldn't think a door rattle would be too hard to fix. Were it me, I'd try a different dealer. If they can't fix it. I'd get in touch with the regional service manager from Honda. Explain the problem, show him paperwork from your multiple visits, and ask for guidance. I would expect Honda would much rather make good on the problem rather than having an unhappy customer whose likely to share their problem with other potential buyers.
If that doesn't work, the last resort could be legal action. Perhaps taking it to an indy body shop and suing to recover the money.
#1000 of 1035 Running the Si on regular gas instead of premuium
Dec 24, 2007 (7:13 am)
Does anybody know if you can re program the Si computer to run on mid greade or regular gas?
#1001 of 1035 Re: Running the Si on regular gas instead of premuium [coupe2]
Dec 24, 2007 (12:04 pm)
Most likely not. The Si has an 11.0:1 compression ratio and running anything less than Premium (91 AKI or higher) is a recipe for mechanical disaster. The question I have is, "Why would you want to?"
The reality is that even if your engine could safely run lower grades of fuel, your gas mileage will drop so much that the cheaper fuel (per gallon) will end up costing you more (i.e. cost per mile).
#1002 of 1035 Re: Running the Si on regular gas instead of premuium [shipo]
Dec 25, 2007 (8:14 am)
Shipo, do you have real knowledge of your assertion that regular gas would destroy your SI engine ("mechanical disaster") and / or gas consumption would rise so much that it would cost more (which I guess assumes no mechanical disaster), or is this speculation?
Most ignition time these days is done with sensor to adjust same to prevent premature detanation. Question is, is this the case with the SI, given Honda's engineering quirkiness? I wonder what the exact words in the owners manual are regarding this.
#1003 of 1035 Re: Running the Si on regular gas instead of premuium [unkownuser]
Dec 25, 2007 (9:54 am)
I'll deal with the reduction in mileage first. Fact: Any engine that is designed to be able to take advantage of Premium fuel WILL get measurably worse mileage when the timing is retarded to allow it to safely burn Regular. Period, full stop, the end.
As for the issue of mechanical damage, no, I have no first hand experience of destroying an Si engine (or any other high compression engine that "Requires" Premium fuel for that matter), I simply will not subject my engines to that kind of abuse. That said, I've been turning wrenches for over thirty years and have seen the results of octane skimping any number of times, and it ain't pretty.
The fact is that as compression ratio rises, the heat generated from the compression will eventually reach a point where it is too high for any amount of timing retardation to prevent detonation (and engine damage as a result). Is it 10.5:1? How about 11.0:1? Maybe 11.5:1? I don't know for sure where the threshold is (it varies by engine, OAT, humidity, altitude, and a few other variables), however, I do know one thing for sure, the engineers at Honda don't just "Recommend" Premium fuel (which is the language usually reserved for cars that CAN retard the timing far enough to burn Regular), they "Require" it. Given that Honda engineers have a very good reputation with regards to the care and feeding of the engines they design, my bet is that if they say that Premium fuel is "Required", only a fool would tempt fate and run anything less than 91 AKI in their Si.
Dec 26, 2007 (8:19 pm)
I recently bought a 08 si coupe and love it. The one thing that I noticed is that there Are some squeaks coming from the passenger dash and wondering if I should even bother taking it back to the dealer? Any thought or similar noises out there?
#1005 of 1035 Re: Intake Air temperature sensor [iorozco13]
Dec 29, 2007 (4:53 pm)
i have the same problem...where is this intake air temperature??