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Re: rattletrap [fasterthanyou]
by carfanatic007
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Oct 08, 2006 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: fasterthanyou (Oct 07, 2006 9:19 am)
Fast, in all seriousness, the STI is in a different league than the SI, your comparing a 300 HP, 300 lb of torque car to a 197 HP car. You should pick on someone your own size.
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- #896 of 1033
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Si on the track
by ccostable
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Oct 09, 2006 (9:47 am)
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How come there is no talk of the Car and Driver article in the Nov 06 issue, where the Si's holy pedestal is taken down a notch? Comments on the Si included "weakest breaks", "breaks that faded greatly after 2 laps", and "floppiest body motions". So much for the fun to drive factor. With its gearing, it only managed to beat an MX-5 around the track. All cars were unmodified production vehicles equipped with all the performance options available.
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- #897 of 1033
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Re: Si on the track [ccostable]
by carfanatic007
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Oct 09, 2006 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: ccostable (Oct 09, 2006 9:47 am)
I don't take Car and Driver seriously. They are usually negative on Honda's (maybe because of ADVERTISING DOLLAR?). Anyway, I don't buy there results.
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- #898 of 1033
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Re: Si on the track [carfanatic007]
by ccostable
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Oct 10, 2006 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Oct 09, 2006 12:12 pm)
Are you kidding? They love anything with Honda written on it. When put to the test, the Si is just lacking.
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- #899 of 1033
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Re: Si on the track [ccostable]
by carfanatic007
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Oct 10, 2006 (9:23 pm)
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Replying to: ccostable (Oct 10, 2006 8:17 am)
Edmunds liked the SI over the GTI, ditto Motor Trend. So opinions are like, well you get the drift. Personally, I test drove the GTI and preferred the SI.
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Look
by qnzprodigy
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Oct 11, 2006 (6:04 am)
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How long does Honda think people will be appeased with a 200 4-cyclinder. Since the ITR the motor has been rated 197 or 200. Come almost 8-10 years later and all they can muster up is 200hp? It's an embarassment that the leader of the compact movement is getting heavier and not upping the power. But thank god for mazda bringing the MS-3 out. This will light a fire under honda's ass to fix up there act. You can cry all the high-tech features of our i-vtec, but technology will not steer your soul like some nice adequate power.
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- #901 of 1033
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Re: rattletrap [fasterthanyou]
by droman
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Oct 11, 2006 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: fasterthanyou (Sep 29, 2006 6:54 am)
I have a 2006 Civic EX automatic and have to say I am also surprised at the lack of quality on this car. I have owned a couple of Preludes and a couple of Accord coupes and they were far superior in terms of quality. Granted they were more expensive cars, so maybe I am comparing apples and oranges. My dealership advisors just get a glazed look on their faces when I try to describe the rattles, as if to say,"Yeah, right. We will be able to fix that(snicker, snicker). Overall, I do like the car. It definitely gets looks. Much more so than my 1999 Accord Coupe, anyway. Gas mileage has been nice compared to the V6 in my Accord. Things I would like to see improved upon in the Civic: quality control (rattles), better interior insulation. My nit picky wishes: fold out mirrors, automatic climate control, power driver seat. Two questions, 1) Does anyone know if door sill plates are available for the coupe and 2) Are the accessory floor mats different from the standard floor mats on the Ex. I noticed on the Honda wed site that they have the Civic logo on them. Mine do not and they are, honestly, the most ridiculously cheap floor mats I have ever seen. I have almost worn a hole through the drivers side after 4000 miles. Thanks for letting me rant!
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by plekto
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Oct 11, 2006 (8:07 pm)
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It's the same engine, or virtually so. All they've done is gear it for more HP and less torque since HP sells.
Kind of like computers. Gotta have the bigger number, despite that Word runs exactly as fast on either machine.
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Re: Look [qnzprodigy]
by carfanatic007
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Oct 12, 2006 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: qnzprodigy (Oct 11, 2006 6:04 am)
I see your the owner of a 2005 Civic Si that has 160 hp and made in England. This is a different car than you own. Have you even driven a 2006? Believe me, it has ample power.
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