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Re: I should just get it, right? [andysd] by midnightcowboy
Oct 05, 2006 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: andysd (Sep 29, 2006 4:09 pm)

Si would be a great car! You should get it. And rememember you are only as old as you think you are. I'm still young at heart, got my first converible, a red S2000, after over 40 years of driving LOL.
 
MidCow
 
P.S. - Keep the Z28 still a nice muscle car and you'll kick yourself if you get rid of it!
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Re: rattletrap [midnightcowboy] by mtbrider
Oct 06, 2006 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Oct 05, 2006 5:27 am)

Actually, I understand very well that the STI produces more torque and HP at lower RPMs than the Si...the numbers don't lie. See the new Volkswagon GTI...a turbo that has a sizeable amount of grunt down low. I don't know many naturally-aspirated four-cylinders that can produce greater than, say, 200 lb. feet of torque, below 4000 rpm. The turbo makes up the difference for displacement when compared to V-6s, V-8s.
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Re: rattletrap [mtbrider] by john500
Oct 07, 2006 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: mtbrider (Oct 06, 2006 5:55 pm)

I've owned both the STi and several Si's. They belong in entirely different markets and are not comparable.
 
The Si is a reasonable daily driver. It gets good fuel economy, has a fun feel, is throttle responsive and handles reasonably well. The STi gets horrible fuel economy (I averaged 15 mpg) and has a turbo lag of greater than one second unless you pop (and wreck) the clutch. It has great cornering and high speed stability. In my opinion, the STi is strictly a weekend car.
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Re: rattletrap [john500] by fasterthanyou
Oct 07, 2006 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: john500 (Oct 07, 2006 5:43 am)

Different markets? I don't think so. Maybe if you take price as being the most important factor.
Are you sure you owned an STI? From your description sounds like you had a regular WRX. I have to tell you ...the STI is a completely different beast. It has INSTANT throttle response and due to very close gearing is ready to rip anytime your foot hits the gas pedal.
 
P.S. Fuel economy ??????????????
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Re: rattletrap [fasterthanyou] by carfanatic007
Oct 08, 2006 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: fasterthanyou (Oct 07, 2006 9:19 am)

Fast, in all seriousness, the STI is in a different league than the SI, your comparing a 300 HP, 300 lb of torque car to a 197 HP car. You should pick on someone your own size.
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Si on the track by ccostable
Oct 09, 2006 (9:47 am)
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How come there is no talk of the Car and Driver article in the Nov 06 issue, where the Si's holy pedestal is taken down a notch? Comments on the Si included "weakest breaks", "breaks that faded greatly after 2 laps", and "floppiest body motions". So much for the fun to drive factor. With its gearing, it only managed to beat an MX-5 around the track. All cars were unmodified production vehicles equipped with all the performance options available.
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Re: Si on the track [ccostable] by carfanatic007
Oct 09, 2006 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: ccostable (Oct 09, 2006 9:47 am)

I don't take Car and Driver seriously. They are usually negative on Honda's (maybe because of ADVERTISING DOLLAR?). Anyway, I don't buy there results.
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Re: Si on the track [carfanatic007] by ccostable
Oct 10, 2006 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Oct 09, 2006 12:12 pm)

Are you kidding? They love anything with Honda written on it. When put to the test, the Si is just lacking.
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Re: Si on the track [ccostable] by carfanatic007
Oct 10, 2006 (9:23 pm)
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Replying to: ccostable (Oct 10, 2006 8:17 am)

Edmunds liked the SI over the GTI, ditto Motor Trend. So opinions are like, well you get the drift. Personally, I test drove the GTI and preferred the SI.
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Look by qnzprodigy
Oct 11, 2006 (6:04 am)
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How long does Honda think people will be appeased with a 200 4-cyclinder. Since the ITR the motor has been rated 197 or 200. Come almost 8-10 years later and all they can muster up is 200hp? It's an embarassment that the leader of the compact movement is getting heavier and not upping the power. But thank god for mazda bringing the MS-3 out. This will light a fire under honda's ass to fix up there act. You can cry all the high-tech features of our i-vtec, but technology will not steer your soul like some nice adequate power.

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