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I should just get it, right? by andysd
Sep 29, 2006 (4:09 pm)
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I keep nitpicking myself that with a two-car garage for my wife's sedan ('04 Civic EX automatic to be replaced by an '08 Accord) and my '99 Z28 (that I don't want to sell), I can't get an Si (red?) like I want because I don't have garage space. BUT, on the other hand I'm so old that I shouldn't put it off and just park the Si on the street and enjoy it? Right?
 
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Re: rattletrap [fasterthanyou] by carfanatic007
Sep 29, 2006 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: fasterthanyou (Sep 29, 2006 6:45 am)

Fast, you obviously have never driven an SI. They are not slow in the low revs. The pick up is immediate. You don't have to "floor" it. When you do floor it, it revs immediately. It is a VERY fun car to drive. Drive it, then decide.
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Re: I should just get it, right? [andysd] by midnightcowboy
Sep 30, 2006 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: andysd (Sep 29, 2006 4:09 pm)

buy a new house with a 3 car garage; it works
 
MidCow
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Another Forum For Fun~driving by allcarsrcool
Oct 02, 2006 (2:46 pm)
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The Civic Si is a very fun car to drive, in fact i've test driven one, but, I started a forum way back in the 2nd week of august about fun driving experiences but there has yet to be a post, so if anyone here has had fun driving their Si or any other car of theirs for that matter, the forum is called "driving stories" and is located in the mazda miata forums. So please tell stories to get this forum started... i've already posted 2... hope to read yours!
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Re: rattletrap [carfanatic007] by fasterthanyou
Oct 03, 2006 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Sep 29, 2006 8:57 pm)

 I did drive the SI. It is responsive and fun to drive if you push it hard. At low RPM I still think is lifeless. As a daily driver I believe is worst than my STI.
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SI torque by carfanatic007
Oct 03, 2006 (8:57 pm)
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The SI is a car you have to shift, that I will grant you. If you are going 70 mph and need to pass someone, don't floor it in 6th, you will need to downshift into fifth. I don't know what you consider lifeless, but then again, your driving around with a 300 hp turbo!
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Re: rattletrap [fasterthanyou] by mtbrider
Oct 04, 2006 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: fasterthanyou (Oct 03, 2006 1:20 pm)

fasterthanyou,
 
Obviously your STI will be more responsive at lower RPMs because it is turbocharged and the Si is not; slap a turbo on an Si and I guarantee you would change your mind; by the same token, take the turbo off your STI and it would be "lifeless" (at its roots a four-cylinder engine)
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Re: rattletrap [mtbrider] by midnightcowboy
Oct 05, 2006 (5:27 am)
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Replying to: mtbrider (Oct 04, 2006 5:56 pm)

Woah misunderstanding of turbos and also apparent misunderstanding of VTEC.
 
A turbo has to spool up from exhaust gases before it supplies power. Larger turbos not have any appreciable power below 3,000 RPM. Some newere smaller turbos and twin turbos will spool up faster. VW has gotten 90% of Hp as low as 1,800 rpm, but this isn't typical. VTEC used to be twin cam and there was a dramatic power increase arounf 4,500-5,000 RPM. New VTEC is a continual change of cam and the affect is very linear power increase with RPM increase. To drive a VTEC sporty the RPMs need to be kept high. However as opposed to a turbo where you typically have a .5 second turbo lag if it is not already spooled there is no lag with VTEC. Having said all that the STI is a different beast altogether. With 300 Hp there is a lot of horspower there! Even without the turbo there is a substantial amount of horsepower as compared to the standard WRX and most other turbos.
 
Having said all of that, I like VTEC better than turbo by far. I had one turbo and that was enough. I have had many VTECs two Hondas currently and an IS300 which uses the same principle. To run properly a VTEC needs a manual transmission.
 
Good Luck in Understanding,
 
Cheers,
 
MidCow
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Re: I should just get it, right? [andysd] by midnightcowboy
Oct 05, 2006 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: andysd (Sep 29, 2006 4:09 pm)

Si would be a great car! You should get it. And rememember you are only as old as you think you are. I'm still young at heart, got my first converible, a red S2000, after over 40 years of driving LOL.
 
MidCow
 
P.S. - Keep the Z28 still a nice muscle car and you'll kick yourself if you get rid of it!
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Re: rattletrap [midnightcowboy] by mtbrider
Oct 06, 2006 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Oct 05, 2006 5:27 am)

Actually, I understand very well that the STI produces more torque and HP at lower RPMs than the Si...the numbers don't lie. See the new Volkswagon GTI...a turbo that has a sizeable amount of grunt down low. I don't know many naturally-aspirated four-cylinders that can produce greater than, say, 200 lb. feet of torque, below 4000 rpm. The turbo makes up the difference for displacement when compared to V-6s, V-8s.

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