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I really want this but it's to much from the dealer (around 700, installed) My SI's radio is xm ready but I don't know what that really means as far as accessable connections for the box and if the antenna wire is already ran... Does anybody know how hard it would be to get a universal xm black box and do the install? |
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Jan 25, 2006 2:07 pm) The 2006 WRX has a 2.5 liter engine (not a 2.2) and it has almost no turbo lag. It is a substantially better performer than the Accord in all performance measures. To be fair, they are definitely aimed at different markets. The WRX is a functional sports sedan, the Accord v6 is a very nice, reliable, sedan/coupe. The accord can accelerate quickly, but it's brakes and handling are not built for sporty intentions. The TC is a tremendous value. If you are someone who is going to modify your car, and you want the best performance on the block, the TC isn't for you. It's a very inexpensive (for the content) economy car with a strong, reliable engine and alot of features stock. The supercharger is great and all, but it pushes the car up into a whole new category of cars based upon cost. If cost is a factor, and you enjoy a fun to drive car, this is a good choice. The WRX is a great choice as well, but figure out if you really need AWD, and if you want 4 doors. It will get about 23-26mpg on average and uses premium, and for this you get outstanding acceleration and a very solid midrange (the wrx is not a top end performer...it's good till about 6000 rpms, and then begins to die off. This is, in large part, due to 3 catalytic converters in the exhaust). It will also respond to modifications much better than any other car on the list. With a $600 investment, you will be close to STI territory on a stock WRX. (Cobb Accessport). For the record, I drive a 2005 Saab 9-2x Aero which is a WRX Wagon. I am trading it in for an SI, as I don't need AWD, and wanted alot of things the SI offers. Good Luck in your choice! Joe
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Replying to: joefrompa (Jan 27, 2006 10:46 am) I've looked at this car (online mostly) and I'll say this about it. It has one of the most advanced engines AND transmissions available in this price range. They make a great looking interior. It wouldn't be a car I'd be planning on keeping a long time (no more than 40-50k miles) and I don't really care for the wheels or the rear end. Otherwise, it will probably be one of the more satisfying cars to own/drive everyday. This is due to the tremendous low-end torque, excellent steering, and DSG transmission. Good Luck in your choices! The "copper" color SI is Habanero Red. It changes colors depending on the light, and goes for a deep red to an orangish color. It's quite good looking, and if you don't mind that the color is a little on the immature side (as is the car) then it might be for you. Good Luck! Joe |
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Hey guys! Thanks so much for all of the information! ---------------------- THE CIVIC SI ---------------------- I drove the SI first. I was wrong, it was actually a cobalt grey color that was suprisingly nice. Great looking car. My first impression of the car was as I got into the driver seat and closed the door. Talk about smooth. The door closes like a 50,000 BMW. Great build quality, I was smiling already. Also (I'm 6'0") I was suprised as to how perfectly the new zany dash layout worked for me (the steering wheel went right where it was supposed to go.) I do agree about the seatbelt though, you really do have to reach WAY back there for it. Anyway - on to the driving experience. From 6800 to what seems like 8100 rpms, the motor screams. I've driven nothing but V8's my whole life, so I'm accustomed to torque. I Was very worried about the 135 lb/ft of torque, but in this agile little car, it didn't seem to be an issue! I love it. this car had no nav, and no performance tires. THE DEALER offered me 19990 PLUS a "touch of class" fee of $1995 which he described as "paint preparation and scotch guard". I laughed in his face and told him that he had one chance to shoot me straight and he once again bs'ed me so I got up and walked out without looking back. Found the same car closer to my house for right at MSRP with no bs fees. ------------------------------------- ACCORD 6-speed MT- EX ------------------------------------- Chose the si over the accord. I'm 23 years old, and granted that its fast, powerful, responsive, black and a coupe, I could help but feel like I was 35 or so when I drove it. It feels SO much heavier than the SI, which of course, it is. I would absolutely be all over this car if I was 10 years older and married. Its very smooth, but doesn't really feel SPORTY. On another note, the new Nav system is not great, but it is the best NAV system I have played with. I still don't understand why people order NAV systems when you can get such a BETTER system from GARMIN that is a TOUCHSCREEN for half the price of the pre-installed factory system. Great car, just too old for me. TOMORROW I DRIVE THE OTHER CARS!!!! |
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Replying to: dowright82 (Jan 27, 2006 11:19 am) I can't speak for the accord, but the honda civic SI navigation is touchscreen, voice activated and very nicely integrates radio, MP3, XM, and a great navigation system as well as making the dash look classier and more expensive (IMO) and is a really nice system. That being said, the portability of a garmin (or similar) system is hard to pass up  Joe |
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Replying to: joefrompa (Jan 27, 2006 10:46 am) "The 2006 WRX has a 2.5 liter engine (not a 2.2) and it has almost no turbo lag. It is a substantially better performer than the Accord in all performance measures. To be fair, they are definitely aimed at different markets. The WRX is a functional sports sedan, the Accord v6 is a very nice, reliable, sedan/coupe. The accord can accelerate quickly, but it's brakes and handling are not built for sporty intentions. " Sorry about the engine size. I drove the old one and it had a lot of turbo lag. There may be less in the new one but there is still some lag on any turbo during spool up. It is just lest noticiable becuase of more torque and power with the larger engine size. The Accord I have has tower strut, 17 inch wheels and 6-speed manual. It drives different from some of the other Accords. I have test drivin it 18K miles so I know how it drives and it has very good handling and brakes. Anyway, I also have a fun commuter car, as I sold the idea to my wife of me having two cars in additon to my son's car and her car. Rallye red 6-speed 2006 Civic Si. I see you are getting one also, sounds great! Double sixes, MidCow |
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Replying to: joefrompa (Jan 27, 2006 12:02 pm) MidCow
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Jan 27, 2006 12:06 pm) It is available, that is why there are alot of civic sedans and coupes out there with navigation. The demand for the navigation has been far greater than Honda anticipated, and Alpine, the producer of the unit, had some initial problems in production. You can order a navigation unit, and you can find them on lots. If you were told otherwise, then it was incorrect. I have an order for mine right now. About 19% of SIs will be built with Navigation in the first quarter of 2006. Some people ordered the car with navigation, and due to demand, Honda changed the order to w/o Navigation. This is grounds for cancellation of the order, but Honda isn't worried as these cars will sell. The WRX 2.0, as I drive, has very little low end, as you said. The WRX 2.5 has a 2.5% increase in displacement, a notable bump in compression ratio, and variable timing. This is enough to make most reviewers state "this car feels the same as the STI up to about 4000rpms". So, the 2.5 WRX is a whole new ballgame. People have been pulling sub 14 second 1/4 mile runs on STOCK 2006 WRXs. Combined with the new 17" wheels standard, better steering rack, and new brakes....this car truly is the performance bargain of the sub 30k range. Anyway, as a soon to be SI owner, I suggest joining vtec.net (if you are not already a member) and contributing to the civic forum. There is alot of good information and helpful people (as well as some bad information). I've been looking into the k20 engine cars (the rsx-s and, now, the SI) for about a year now, and have found it to offer me the things I'm looking for at this point in my life. Joe
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Replying to: joefrompa (Jan 27, 2006 12:47 pm) Thanks for your response. MidCow |
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Replying to: joefrompa (Jan 27, 2006 12:02 pm) For example, I like the idea of one that's transportable and voice activated, for use at night while driving. What Garmin models are you familiar with that I should look at? Thanks! P.S. After 16 years of fun, I sold my '87 Civic Si in '02, replacing it with a Mazda Protege5, which was its closest match at the time. Sounds like Honda has finally produced another Si worth considering. And fun as the P5 is, its 130HP just isn't quite enough for me.
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