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Re: So I've got a few test drives lined up [chuckd2] by mtbrider
Jan 25, 2006 (8:50 pm)
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Replying to: chuckd2 (Jan 25, 2006 5:24 pm)

The times of 5.9-6.2 0-60 for the Accord are accurate for one with a manual transmission. An automatic would be a bit slower, though still no slouch. The Si would have the edge in the handling department.
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Re: So I've got a few test drives lined up [dowright82] by strumelia
Jan 26, 2006 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: dowright82 (Jan 25, 2006 1:52 pm)

According to a recent Consumer Reports review, VW's have one of the worst repair records of any car today. Even the VW CEO admits they have some reliability "issues" they are working on. I know people who had their brand new door not able to close and latch, or their window crank come off in their hand. Strumelia
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Re: si gas mileage [chuckd2] by strumelia
Jan 26, 2006 (4:51 am)
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Replying to: chuckd2 (Jan 25, 2006 5:17 pm)

Chuck writes:
I did mostly highway driving, and the highways were slower moving ones for the most part. I went 71 mph with the cruise control on, and on the slower highways I only went 64 mph. I shift around 3500 to each gear. I know these are slow speeds but I wanted to see how good the car would do.
 
Chuck, You call 71mph "slow"? What's the speed limit where you live? In any case, you can't expect to drive faster and faster and get better mileage that way. Pick one or the other- high speed or good mileage. I think you are really lucky to get the mileage you do! Guess it's because you don't do a lot of city driving or stop and go driving. Strumelia
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Re: So I've got a few test drives lined up [strumelia] by midnightcowboy
Jan 27, 2006 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: strumelia (Jan 26, 2006 4:44 am)

Additional note of VW. The customer service interface of the Service departments also has a pretty low rating. Which means besides poor relaibilitiy thate service departmnet managers and technicians also treat you poorly.
 
I almost bought a Golf TDI. Luckily the salesman raised his offer from invoice to $300 over and I walked. Then I read the VW horror stories. 2003 was a very fine year!
 
Double sixes,
 
MidCow
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Re: So I've got a few test drives lined up [midnightcowboy] by strumelia
Jan 27, 2006 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Jan 27, 2006 6:00 am)

The one major thing I love about VW beetles though is this: they sure know how to pick happening exterior colors. No "grandpa grey"'s or "sort of silver"'s in THAT bunch! (sigh...)
Strumelia
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Re: si gas mileage [strumelia] by chuckd2
Jan 27, 2006 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: strumelia (Jan 26, 2006 4:51 am)

Here in Michigan the speed limit is 70 on most of the highways, so people truly go 75+mph. My commute to work is 63 miles, some of the highways are 70 mph, some are only 55mph so in the 70 mph section I go 71, and in the 55 section, I go 64. It's very hard to only go 71 when everone one is racing up to my rear bumper....I'm lucky to commute during off peak hours...
 Anyways...I am happy to get the milage that I do!
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XM radio by chuckd2
Jan 27, 2006 (10:36 am)
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I really want this but it's to much from the dealer (around 700, installed)
My SI's radio is xm ready but I don't know what that really means as far as accessable connections for the box and if the antenna wire is already ran...
Does anybody know how hard it would be to get a universal xm black box and do the install?
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Re: So I've got a few test drives lined up [midnightcowboy] by joefrompa
Jan 27, 2006 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Jan 25, 2006 2:07 pm)

Midcow,
 
The 2006 WRX has a 2.5 liter engine (not a 2.2) and it has almost no turbo lag. It is a substantially better performer than the Accord in all performance measures.
 
To be fair, they are definitely aimed at different markets. The WRX is a functional sports sedan, the Accord v6 is a very nice, reliable, sedan/coupe. The accord can accelerate quickly, but it's brakes and handling are not built for sporty intentions.
 
The TC is a tremendous value. If you are someone who is going to modify your car, and you want the best performance on the block, the TC isn't for you. It's a very inexpensive (for the content) economy car with a strong, reliable engine and alot of features stock. The supercharger is great and all, but it pushes the car up into a whole new category of cars based upon cost. If cost is a factor, and you enjoy a fun to drive car, this is a good choice.
 
The WRX is a great choice as well, but figure out if you really need AWD, and if you want 4 doors. It will get about 23-26mpg on average and uses premium, and for this you get outstanding acceleration and a very solid midrange (the wrx is not a top end performer...it's good till about 6000 rpms, and then begins to die off. This is, in large part, due to 3 catalytic converters in the exhaust).
 
It will also respond to modifications much better than any other car on the list. With a $600 investment, you will be close to STI territory on a stock WRX. (Cobb Accessport).
 
For the record, I drive a 2005 Saab 9-2x Aero which is a WRX Wagon. I am trading it in for an SI, as I don't need AWD, and wanted alot of things the SI offers.
 
Good Luck in your choice!
 
Joe
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Re: So I've got a few test drives lined up [joefrompa] by joefrompa
Jan 27, 2006 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: joefrompa (Jan 27, 2006 10:46 am)

As a followup on the 06 GTI:
 
I've looked at this car (online mostly) and I'll say this about it. It has one of the most advanced engines AND transmissions available in this price range. They make a great looking interior.
 
It wouldn't be a car I'd be planning on keeping a long time (no more than 40-50k miles) and I don't really care for the wheels or the rear end. Otherwise, it will probably be one of the more satisfying cars to own/drive everyday. This is due to the tremendous low-end torque, excellent steering, and DSG transmission.
 
Good Luck in your choices! The "copper" color SI is Habanero Red. It changes colors depending on the light, and goes for a deep red to an orangish color. It's quite good looking, and if you don't mind that the color is a little on the immature side (as is the car) then it might be for you.
 
Good Luck!
 
Joe
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ABOUT MY TEST DRIVES by dowright82
Jan 27, 2006 (11:19 am)
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Hey guys! Thanks so much for all of the information!
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THE CIVIC SI
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I drove the SI first. I was wrong, it was actually a cobalt grey color that was suprisingly nice. Great looking car.
 
My first impression of the car was as I got into the driver seat and closed the door. Talk about smooth. The door closes like a 50,000 BMW. Great build quality, I was smiling already. Also (I'm 6'0") I was suprised as to how perfectly the new zany dash layout worked for me (the steering wheel went right where it was supposed to go.) I do agree about the seatbelt though, you really do have to reach WAY back there for it.
 
Anyway - on to the driving experience. From 6800 to what seems like 8100 rpms, the motor screams. I've driven nothing but V8's my whole life, so I'm accustomed to torque. I Was very worried about the 135 lb/ft of torque, but in this agile little car, it didn't seem to be an issue! I love it.
 
this car had no nav, and no performance tires. THE DEALER offered me 19990 PLUS a "touch of class" fee of $1995 which he described as "paint preparation and scotch guard".
I laughed in his face and told him that he had one chance to shoot me straight and he once again bs'ed me so I got up and walked out without looking back.
 
Found the same car closer to my house for right at MSRP with no bs fees.
 
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ACCORD 6-speed MT- EX
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Chose the si over the accord. I'm 23 years old, and granted that its fast, powerful, responsive, black and a coupe, I could help but feel like I was 35 or so when I drove it. It feels SO much heavier than the SI, which of course, it is. I would absolutely be all over this car if I was 10 years older and married. Its very smooth, but doesn't really feel SPORTY.
 
On another note, the new Nav system is not great, but it is the best NAV system I have played with. I still don't understand why people order NAV systems when you can get such a BETTER system from GARMIN that is a TOUCHSCREEN for half the price of the pre-installed factory system.
 
Great car, just too old for me.
 
TOMORROW I DRIVE THE OTHER CARS!!!!

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