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Honda Civic, Coupe, Hatchback
#356 of 1035 Re: $25K for an Si? [coolguy5]
Jan 06, 2006 (12:13 pm)
Actually you didn't seem to follow the thread or the sarcasm implied. The S2000 and Civic Si have completley different demographics. Which doesn't mean that the S2000 is 5 times better as was previously stated.
The Integra GSR Type-R has not been available since 1998 or I might have bought one.
CHEAP is the wrong word to describe a Honda Civic Si, but it fits in with the rest of your diatribe. The Civic Si is less expensive, but I wouldn't go as far as to say the S2000 and especially the type-R are more luxurious, maybe more sporty. The Type-R doesn't even have air conditioning or cruise control; but at only 2,577 lbs with 195 Hp and a 8,500 RPM redline who cares!
The 2006 Civic Si will is a very-fun, practical car with pretty decent handling and performance. It is a SPORTS coupe.
P.S.- Welcome to Edmunds forums, I guess.
#357 of 1035 Re: $25K for an Si? [midnightcowboy]
Jan 06, 2006 (3:35 pm)
Be honest, people buy the Civic SI because of the price...CHEAP. If price is not object to them, there are a lot of REAL "sports coupes" on the market which are more fun, with better handling & performance.
LOL...you are using air conditioning & cruise control as your definition of "luxurious" to downgrade the type-R (S2000?) & upgrade your SI? Be reasonable, we are living in the modern world & it is hard to find a car without air conditioning in US (even for the cheapest economy car). Cruise control is not a "luxury", it is getting very common & is standard in many cars.
To be honest, down inside, Honda SI is just a Honda Civic...& the S2000 is a real "sports car". I do agree with only1harry that S2000 is "5 times the car the SI is" (& possibly more)....& I will choose the S2000 or type-R over the SI anytime.
But of course, if you have a limited budget & need a cheaper "sports coupe?" which can carry more people & get better gas milage, you will have to choose the SI.
#358 of 1035 Re: $25K for an Si? [coolguy5]
Jan 06, 2006 (7:12 pm)
#359 of 1035 Re: quotes [psy]from lynerd
Jan 06, 2006 (7:40 pm)
thats steep i'am paying $360/6 months on a ex coupe manual trans, and have at least one ticket. I'am 43 so is the wife. We live near Portland Or.
#360 of 1035 Re: $25K for an Si? [midnightcowboy]
Jan 07, 2006 (5:44 pm)
You 're starting to scare me a little Midnight. First you spelled VTEC wrong (VTECH) and usually a GSR owner knows how to spell that if anything because VTEC is on the little metal plate on the back of his/her car.. Then you said Integra GSRs and Type-Rs have not been been available since '98! Well they were sold up until May 2001! The Integra's replacement, the RSX, was an early '02 model released in the spring of '01.
I 'll have to correct you again. Only the '97 Type-R didn't have A/C. In '98 A/C was a dealer installed option for the Type-R. My brother's '98 ITR has A/C and in '00 & 01 models (there was no '99 Type-R otherwise I would 've bought one too but ended up with a '99 GSR) A/C was standard. The only reason behind the optional A/C or no A/C was to reduce weight. The Type-R was built for racing with reinforced larger diameter A, B, and C pillars and no sunroof for additional rigidity, plus a 100 other differences/improvements over the GSR which I won't go into. The interior material and seats, etc. in all Integras was and still is far more superior to that of the '06 Civic. Also my '99 GSR came with standard leather as did '00-01 models. The '06 Civic Si or non, is still an econo car with more plastic than I have ever seen in a Civic before and has average cloth seats at best. Also since you mentioned it, the S2000's interior looks and feels luxurious (comes standard with leather seats and has extra leather & wood trimming throughout!) and puts the Civic's interior to shame. The Type-R's special race seats with superb material and stitching and latteral support cost 2 grand $$ to buy new. I believe that's what Coolguy5 meant by luxurious, that plus the interior material of any Acura is much better than that of any Civic. Sorry I think we 've beaten this to death.
Back to the Civic I 'm still waiting for my dealer to get a black coupe 5sp. in.
#361 of 1035 Re: $25K for an Si? [only1harry]
Jan 08, 2006 (4:33 pm)
Thanks for the reply. Put down only VTEC because of "temple of VTEC", yes sgould have been VTECH. I agree paying over MSRP is not a good deal and a S2000 would be better. I had a 95 GSR with exhaust system, tires, AEM and it ran very well! The new Si meets my needs for a fun commuter car! I seriously considered a new S2000 but didn't want to spend the extra 10k$ Thanks again for your comments. Tried to look up specs and dates on last Type R, but consider the source Edmunds is flawed. I almost bought a white one in 1999; at the time had some extra money and bought a BMW M3.
#362 of 1035 Re: $25K for an Si? [midnightcowboy]
Jan 08, 2006 (8:37 pm)
You sounds quite mixed up......
If you are refering to Honda, only1harry is right...it should be VTEC (not VTECH). VTECH that you mentioned is the brand name of a CHEAP CORDLESS PHONE (in HongKong / China).
Although SI may be considered as a good commuter car, if you want to talk about fun & brag about performance, you will need to go for a S2000 (i.e. if you can spare that extra $10K).
There were no BMW M3 between year 1999 to 2002. If you almost bought a Type-R in 1999, but changed your mind to buy a BMW later on, it can not be a M3 (unless it is a used older model second hand car).
#363 of 1035 Okay last time trying to explain
Jan 09, 2006 (7:31 am)
Only1Harry and Coolguy5,
Fast typing it was a typo with the H , should have been VTEC.
Don't really car whether a Si makes a performance statement to anyone else or not. It is what I want for a fun reliable commuter car that I will probably put 20K miles per year on.
Concerning the M3, It was a new 1998 (E36) Apline White 1998 sedan that I bought in December of 1998. At the time the 1999 Acura Integra Type R's were out and the Acura dealer had a white one available.
Concerning whether I could afford the extra $10K or not. My finances are none of your concern, but I bet if we compared I would be substantally higher than you on the assets scale.
Anyway, I have a 2006 Civic Si Coupe on order and that is what this discussion is about; it is not a comparison. If you want to further discuss comparions between a 2006 Honda Civic Si and a Honda S2000 or a Acutra Integra Type RI suggest you start a separate thread!
Have a goodday,
#365 of 1035 How do you remove the tail light lens?
Jan 09, 2006 (12:50 pm)
My tail like lens is cracked and I want to replace it. Does anyone know how to remove the lens so I can install the new one?