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Honda Civic, Coupe, Hatchback
#1031 of 1035 Looking to buy an 09 SI
Apr 20, 2009 (4:45 am)
I am looking to buy an 09 SI and wanted to check in here and see what every one's opinion is about the car. It seems that one of the major issues is the syncro in 3rd tends to let loose after a while. Has any experienced any major problems with that, e.g. having to replace the gearbox? Otherwise I'd like to get everyone's opinion about the car. Reliability is my main concern. I was originally going to get a subaru WRX, but read on some other forums about some serious engine failures after 3k miles. To me there is no point in having a car that has great performance but if it's going to have some major failure. after 3k or 20k miles.
Thanks in advance.
#1032 of 1035 Re: Looking to buy an 09 SI [jj987]
May 04, 2009 (11:41 am)
I am a current owner of an 08 Si Coupe. This is my 2nd Honda, as my first was an 07 LX Coupe 5-Speed. I am not going to even speak about the 07 LX as the 08 Si is better on every level. Where to I begin?
The 3rd gear issue was only prevelent on affected Si's from 06, 07 and some 08's. There is a specific VIN range that gives the Si's that have the issue. There was a problem where it would pop out of 3rd gear by itself. The other issue was the grind. As stated above, the TSB is out and many members recieved a new tranny tear down and build-up. Members have added Amsoil Syncromesh MTF to remedy the problem of the grind and I will say this once... NO DEALER can void your warranty if you use an oil that MEETS OR EXCEEDS manufacturer requirements. Amsoil, exceeding the requirements, has shown good results. However, it is up to each specific dealer to choose if they want to perform the MTF oil switch for you. That, you can not argue.
The A/C is strong enough and I have not heard many (if any, now that I think about it) problems with it. So owners having problems with their A/C is just a bad luck of the draw. Nothing more.
These are what I feel are the Pros and Cons of the Si:
Good gas mileage (I do 60-miles round trip every day to work and I average about 31-mpg)
Handling (One of the best handling cars I have ever driven. I can pull 0.91 G on the skid)
i-VTEC Powerband (Power and engine note sounds spectacular. ("Wow! What an engine note! Equal parts angry hornet and formula bike" - MotorTrend)
Helical Limited Slip Differential LSD
6-Speed Manual Transmission (One of the smoothest shifting manual transmissions I have ever used. Effortless shift throws)
2-Tier Digital Speedometer / Tachometer Display
Maintenance Minder System
Styling (Inside and Out)
Clutch Feel and Travel
Comfort (Racing seats are firm, supportive, and plush. Is that possible to have all 3?)
Interior Room (Front)
Drive-by-Wire (DBW) Throttle System (RPMs do not immediately drop when you shift gears sometimes)
Low Torque Numbers
Black Interior (Only comes in Black, which is what I wanted, but every piece of lint or dog hair shows)
No Leather Option (Would have been nice, but the cloth/suede material is excellent in feel. Wears pretty easily as well and starting to see some fade spots)
No Heated Seat Option
Interior Plastics scratches easily
A/C Vent right behind Steering Wheel (Not a real Con, but Iím starting to run out of ideas)
Interior Room in the Rear (A bit cramped in terms of leg room in my Coupe, but maybe that is because I am 6'1" and my driver seat is way back)
Thatís pretty much itÖ
The Si is honestly one of the best cars I have ever owned. Sure I could have went with something with more power, or more luxury, but for the money I am paying (I leased), and for what I get in terms of bang for the buck and value, that is where it shines. Comes in Coupe or Sedan, but I went with the Coupe because of the styling.
I looked at other cars like the Cobalt SS, the GTi, Sentra-V, WRX, and the Mazda Speed3 (MS3) and the Si was the logical choice. The Cobalt is a rental car, the GTi is a htach and they look god awful. The Sentra is just bland. The WRX is a bit more money. The MS3 is also a hatch, enough said, but it was the only other car that I considered.
#1033 of 1035 New Civic SI price
Sep 15, 2009 (7:27 pm)
I currently have an offer for 20.5K for one with 2.9% for 60 months. Internet dealer said he'd throw in GPS, which i'm guessing would mean like a garmin or something, not actual NAV on car i think, nor do i really care about that. I would like to know how everyone else is fairing out there with deals on a SI w/o NAV now.
I live in DFW, Texas
May 24, 2011 (6:15 pm)
I love my Civic, it's fun to drive. My dad works for Honda and he warned me they're fragile. My Si has almost all the problems posted, I've taken it to 2 different dealerships and they claim they cannot duplicate the problem (I think part of the problem is that I'm female).
-3rd gear pops out/ it's really hard to shift into 3rd
-my rear suspension creaks and sounds like it's going to break in half
-Tires wear horribly (they're expensive too)
My car has it's issues, but looking back I'd still buy it, I love driving it.