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Land Rover Range Rover Sport, Land Rover Range Rover, SUV
#183 of 402 Re: Demand slowing down [madaaron]
Jun 28, 2007 (5:49 am)
I couldn't read all of that since it was mostly a couple of run on sentences but I will point out the false parts of what I did read.
RRS have not been delayed. Land Rover told us this past winter that 2008s would arrive in July. My drop dates for 2008 Sports and LR3s have been the last week in June or the first week in July since January. There was never a delay. My 2008 RRs have shown mid July delivery since January as well and they have never changed.
I am sold out of Sports as are many other dealers.
I posted this last week on another board. I am sure there are even less Sports around now.
At the end of the 2006 MY Land Rover put 4,000 dollars of marketing support behind the RRS. So far Land Rover has not put a penny of support behind the 2007 MY RRS.
Some dealers are sold out of 2007 Sports. I am.
I just checked in new england and right now there are 112 HSE Sports showing unsold in dealer inventories. There are only 40 SC Sports unsold in dealer inventories. That is only about 11 sports per dealer if you divide them all evenly which of course they are not because some of the dealers are HUGE and some are very small.
There is no marketing support behind the Sports or the big Range Rovers. Our current programs are good till July 10th so they might not put any marketing support on Range Rovers this year. I am sure some parts of the country are a little heavy on sports but some are almost dry. I was sold out of sports until yesterday when we got our first 2008 models.
The Sport and the LR3 use the same T5 chassis but suspension settings of the Sport is completely different. Just look at the wheel travel difference on the LR3 and sport to see that.
I am not surprised the LR3 sales have gone flat for several reasons.
1. It is in its third model year now and is just now getting the first minor interior refresh.
2. It is in the most competitive market for luxury SUVs.
3. Gas prices are high and they will effect that market much more then the market for Range Rovers
4. Its styling does put some people off although the people who understand its functionality love it.
Now if you think the LR3 is ugly then what do you think of the LX570?
I mean come on that is nasty. It looks like someone over inflated a Highlander or a Rav4 body then slapped a Lexus badge on it.
#184 of 402 Re: Demand slowing down [british_rover]
Jun 28, 2007 (6:15 am)
A couple of run off sentences?? How dare you?...just kidding:-). Not sure if you are in the southwest but the dealers here have more RRS (I didn't check into the Supercharged per my previous comment) and I was told it was delayed..unless of course the dealer didn't know what he was talking about. I was in Dallas a few weeks back and the RR dealer had about 15-20 RRS just sitting there. Per the LR3..its ugly and the LX570 isn't (but that is my personal opinion). And gas prices have actually fallen so it should not trip up the SUV market, besides quite a lot of luxury SUV owners are upper income folks who still keep their cars but get gas efficient normies like Civic, Accord, CRV, Corolla etc. But still..this does not get to the heart of price negotiation..ideally, luxury car dealers are supposed to be immune to price pressures but to say they don't have anyting is just bananas. I have heard that LR doesn't give much dealer support cos they think the brand sells itself and they may be right but that's what Mercedes and Jaguar believed and see what happened to them. Anyway, who knows who is going to buy LR now that Ford is selling it...the new owner might market it differently. We'll see....
#185 of 402 Re: Demand slowing down [madaaron]
Jun 28, 2007 (6:41 am)
Dallas is a HUGE dealer. They have over 100 new cars on the ground at any one time. I would be surprised if they didn't have 15-20 sports available in stock. That is less then 20 percent of their inventory in sports and Sport sales typically make up over 20 percent of Land Rovers over all sales.
They are under stocked.
#190 of 402 To HSE or Supercharged... That is the Question?
Jun 30, 2007 (12:45 pm)
I'm interested in the RR HSE and the RR Supercharged... Is it worth it to buy the Supercharged over the HSE? The tires, grill, engine, and interior are more plush but is it truly worth it? Thanks for any help.
Jun 30, 2007 (5:49 pm)
Anyone have a discount certificate they are willing to part with?