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Replying to: rockfish1 (Jan 30, 2007 11:29 am) Read what this pro has to say about it: http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/glossary.html A very informative site. It was the reason for our decision. Good luck.
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Replying to: linderman (Feb 01, 2007 2:09 pm) According to the Dodge Nitro Specs on the www.dodge.com site, the term "Part Time 4WD" is used for the 4 speed Automatic transmission. According to the link you provided, the 4WD should only be used when moving in a straight line on surfaces without good traction. The article says: "Here is why part time 4WD should not be used on pavement: If you own a vehicle with part time 4WD the need for different rpm front and rear represents a major problem. The transfer case will power the front and rear drive shafts with same rpm and is not able to satisfy the front axle's need for more rpm. Remember, the combined rpm of front wheels (A+B) is higher than the combined rpm of the rear wheels (C+D). Only full time 4WD systems are able to negotiate the needs of front and rear. So, with part time 4WD engaged your front wheels are forced by good traction on the ground to rotate faster than the rear - but since the front drive shaft delivers only the same rpm as to the rear there is a fight between front wheels and rational force coming from the front drive shaft. The front drive shaft in effect tries to slow down the front wheels. This results in very wide turns (understeer) and dangerous handling on pavement. The name "part time" derives from its use. It can only be used part of the time - most of the time (for most uses) it has to remain in 2WD. Only "full time" - notice the name - can be used full time for all uses" The article also indicated that a part time 4WD car that is engaged in 4WD has this situation---- "Here is another important fact: Since front and rear axles are not able to rotate independently ABS will not work properly." Thanks again for the link. It now seems that the 4X4 is only useful if I get stuck in mud or trying to SLOWLY go up a snow covered hill.
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Feb 01, 2007 3:45 pm) As that site says...for slick pavement, AWD or full-time 4WD is best.
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Replying to: linderman (Feb 01, 2007 4:57 pm) Is this MP140 and MP143 a code for manual or automatic transmissions? With the full time 4wd, I believe the additional traction benefits will be available on rain slick or snow covered roads. If this how you have found the Nitros that you drive?
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Feb 02, 2007 3:21 pm) "If" you plan to use your Nitro off-road a lot...then consider the part-time 4WD.
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Replying to: linderman (Feb 02, 2007 3:41 pm) I am surprised your R/T is still in order mode. I have seen a number of R/T's in the dealers inventory on line in the Baltimore/Washington area. The Fitzmall site still does not have the R/T's but the 28 other Nitro's are offered at $1000 to $1500 off MSRP.
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Feb 02, 2007 5:08 pm) Incidentally, that translates to 1 mile offroad for every 100,000 miles driven. Thought you'd like to know. tidester, host
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Replying to: tidester (Feb 02, 2007 6:44 pm) Not having driven a vehicle with a drivetrain other than RWD and FWD is one reason I don't know that much about the pros and cons of 4WD part time, 4WD full time or AWD. With an offering of a variety of drivetrains on the Nitro and other car/truck vehicles, I am interested in determining if the costs will match the benefits for me. The link provided by linderman was very helpful Read what this pro has to say about it: http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/glossary.html Is there an active forum on drivetrains?
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Feb 02, 2007 8:00 pm) |
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HAS ANYONE HAD ANY PROBLEMS RE:TRANS SHUDDER,TORQUE CONVERTER LOCK UP ON 07 NITRO?IF SO WHAT FIXED IT.
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