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Re: Accident today [hal56] by busiris
Apr 24, 2008 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: hal56 (Apr 24, 2008 7:02 pm)

Sorry to hear about your interesting accident, but hope you are OK and uninjured. Just curious...approximately what was the speed of both vehicles at time of impact?
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Re: Accident today [hal56] by billdaman
Apr 25, 2008 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: hal56 (Apr 24, 2008 7:02 pm)

good to hear you are OK. The Airbags are variable deployment The G6 has "dual stage" frontal air bags, which tailor the amount of restraint according to the severity of the crash. Because you had a frontal impact, that was enough to total the vehicle but was low speed, these air bags are programmed to inflate at a level less than full deployment.
 
For a severe frontal impact, you would have experienced a full deployment. If the front of your G6 hit a wall or something like a big tree that didnt move or deform, the threshold level for reduced deployment is arounf 12 to 16 mph, The threshold level for a full deployment is about 18 to 24 mph . If you hit say a parked car, the threshold level would have activated.
 
Bottom line is that a full deployment is a very unpleasant thing for an occupant. These bags on full deploy are like a shotgun going off in the closed interior, and real bad if you are asthmatic. The G6 is a inexpensive design, but the convertible crashes well in the barrier test. Its easy to find things to critize about GM vehiicles, ( I know I worked as an engineer in GM;s tech center for 14 years) but they are very safely designed vehicles...this I will stake my life on because thats all I drive and dont even work for them anymore
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Re: Accident today [billdaman] by hal56
Apr 25, 2008 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: billdaman (Apr 25, 2008 1:56 pm)

here is the other part--i basically broadsided a cab--but it was at a slight angle--the hit forced me off to the right and almost into another line of traffic-in this case busses from a rental company--my question was that if the airbags deployed are "spent " on the first impact, my second impact is obviously gonna be a problem.
 
i know every eventuality cannot be covered--but I was thinking about it.
 
BTW--anybody know the cost to fix an airbag--I am trying to figure out if they will try to fix the car or total it--one major problem is the top and trunk areas are not out of alignmnet and could not move open at all.
 
with all the roof problems reported here, if they try ot fix it it will never be right.
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Re: Accident today [busiris] by hal56
Apr 25, 2008 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: busiris (Apr 24, 2008 7:09 pm)

responding to speed--I was doing about 20--
 
also--I had the fire department and policy dept and the chicago aviation safety officers out there--nobody knew the car was a hardtop convertible.
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Re: Accident today [hal56] by busiris
Apr 25, 2008 (9:16 pm)
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Replying to: hal56 (Apr 25, 2008 5:22 pm)

Too bad you couldn't get the EMS folks to use the jaws of life in a couple of places...that would have guaranteed the "total" diagnosis...
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Re: 1 reason for rattles [g6topls] by g6topls
Apr 27, 2008 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: g6topls (Feb 28, 2008 8:20 pm)

Great News! GM repurchased my G6 hardtop convertible and gave me every penny back.
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Re: Accident today [busiris] by hal56
Apr 27, 2008 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: busiris (Apr 25, 2008 9:16 pm)

you said: Too bad you couldn't get the EMS folks to use the jaws of life in a couple of places...that would have guaranteed the "total" diagnosis...
 
yeah--I am concerned the ins co will not cover cracking open the trunk (repairing it)., I went to look at the car tonight--
 
the roof is about 1/2 inch out of alignmnet with hte top of the windshield--the passenger side has the 1/2 inch gap--drivers side very slightly--the impact must have reverberated throught the entire body to the top and trunk areas and mechanisms.
 
In addition, the passenger airbag when deployed ripped a part of the dash open--my ins agent told me that a clean deployment of the two dual stage airbags is a min cost of 2k and could be as much as 6k--add in the dashboard and the screwed up front end and wheels and as well the rear end, the repair cost is well into the 5 figures.
 
I have 9k miles on my 2007--checks KBB for used car prices--excellent condition around 22-23k--poor--which it would be after this type of accident is 18k--so if they repair it and I go to trade it--my 12 month cost will be 13k. Plus the 9% sales tax on the car putting a 12 month cost at around 15k.
 
but moving to the rattles issue--if they choose to fix the car-I know I will have rattles problems--they have it without an accident-so I cring as what will happen as they try to re-align the top and all the moving pieces--there is a reason why the HTC is 10k more than any other G6.
 
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Re: 1 reason for rattles [g6topls] by catkc
Apr 27, 2008 (9:18 pm)
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Replying to: g6topls (Apr 27, 2008 8:03 pm)

Congratulations!
 
So how long did you work with them to get them to agree to such a deal? I know I haven't posted for awhile but I am still having issues.
 
1) Had a minor accident in January backed in to a pole so the dealer had to replace the bumper and driver side tail light.
 
2) Still can't get the dealer to acknowledge the transmission hesitation issue at 20-40 mile per hour.
 
3) The passenger side door does not set flush with the body of the car. So when I take the vehicle through a car wash I get water in the car now.
 
4) On the passenger side of the car there is paint coming off of the trunk lid where it is rubbing on the rear tail light.
 
I would encourage everyone with issues to call GM and complain. I will tell you that I have called again about the issues and had a ticket opened.
 
So it would really be helpful if you could give more details about the issues that made GM decide to replace at full cost.
 
Thank you so much for the detail.
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Re: 1 reason for rattles [catkc] by hal56
Apr 28, 2008 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: catkc (Apr 27, 2008 9:18 pm)

transmission lurch--i have it and my dealer told me (yeah) that thre is a computer that gets used to the driver do if you have anybody else driving it the computer and tranny get confused.
 
I laughed--he looked puzzled--I said I have not heard GM BS for years---goes back to the old days.
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Re: 1 reason for rattles [hal56] by busiris
Apr 28, 2008 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: hal56 (Apr 28, 2008 8:12 am)

I agree...someone is confuse, all right....the dealer!

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