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Ford Fusion, Sedan
#141 of 489 Re: doc fees [kemond1]
Apr 13, 2009 (11:23 pm)
A 2009 Ford Fusion SE V6 with Sport Appearance Package has an MSRP of $24,115 and an Edmunds 'True Market Value' of $18,627. $22,900 is WAY too much for the car you describe!
Are there any other options besides the Sport Appearance Package? If not, you should be able to buy this car for under $19k (plus sales tax and tag/title fees). Your OTD price shouldn't be a penny more than $20k!
#142 of 489 Re: doc fees [kemond1]
Apr 14, 2009 (7:52 am)
Almost every one has document fees now. It is silly, they discounmt the car and then add that back in. $149 is not too bad, in some markets they are adding like $500 from what I have read. It is typically $99-129 in my area.
The state governments have given dealers the option to charge a discrete document fee that is supposed to represent the cost of doing the govenment paper work associated with selling a car, as I understand it. They are not required to charge this fee, nor is the amount set by the government (beyond indicating that it must be represntative of the actual cost, at least that is the rule in my state). Some dealers will claim or imply that it is a required fee charged by the government.
I don't worry about it, beyond making sure when I get a price that I know what all the add on fees are with each dealer that I am dealing with, so that I can compare the true price. I don't really care how they want to subdivide the price...as long as I know what the final sum is.
#143 of 489 Re: doc fees [igozoomzoom]
Apr 14, 2009 (5:28 pm)
I didn't take the $3500 yet when I said that amount, so they are charging $19,400. They also claimed that the invoice quoted on edmunds is wrong. I asked them to mail me a copy. I should get it in a couple of days, if they send it. Right now, the OTD is at $21,200.
#144 of 489 Re: doc fees [kemond1]
Apr 15, 2009 (3:01 pm)
edmunds does not include the advirtising charge you will see on the vehicle invoice.
i think it varies by region, so i can kind of see why it is not included.
#145 of 489 Re: doc fees [explorerx4]
Apr 15, 2009 (5:08 pm)
Yeah, got the invoice. There is a $450 charge for FDAF/LMDA Assessment, which is what you were referring to. So they are actually selling it to me $300 above invoice. If they actually even paid that for it, considering the A&Z Plan is pricing it $1,000 below invoice. I'll probably get it.......stupid doc fees at all.
Apr 16, 2009 (10:34 pm)
I was quoted just under $20k without tax and registration for a 2010 SE with Floor matts and SYNC with the 2.5L manual engine and moon roof. That has a $2000 rebate so before the rebate it was almost $22k. The SEL added auto leather 6 disk CD, on top of the SE features I had before, but that was $$23.3k so just over $3k difference.
Interesting, but sounds a bit high still to me.
Also have the option to add the reverse detect on the SEL as well as 18" rims, but I like the MPG so I'd expect the 18's would lower that slightly.
Anyone else get quotes for the 2010 yet? They have a price guarantee so I'm shopping now.
#147 of 489 Re: doc fees [jeffyscott]
Apr 23, 2009 (10:00 am)
FWIW -- I was shopping a 2009 Mazda6 last fall and was quoted documentation fees of $489 and $590 at two different dealerships. The other folks on the Mazda thread at the time said that was way above the average of about $200-250.
I'm still shopping. Drove a 2010 Fusion Sport last night, the first one I've driven since trying out the then-new Fusion several years ago. The power was nice, the car ran smoothly. I got the feeling of the hood and doorsills being higher up, which I think is a trend in cars as they try to make them safer for the occupants, but takes away some of the sporty feel of the car, IMO. I'm waiting for them to get a 3.0 V6 in stock, which is probably the car I'd go for.
I don't see much chatter from folks who are buying the 2010 model right now, on the Fusion/Milan thread. Is there another place where people are talking about their experiences at owning and driving this new model?
#148 of 489 Re: doc fees [austinman7]
Apr 23, 2009 (12:58 pm)
There's not much chatter as of yet because 2010 Fusions are just arriving in showrooms and pre-orders are also just arriving. I ordered my 2010 Fusion SEL on 3/2 and I just got the word yesterday mine has been built and will be 2 weeks for delivery to Minneapolis. Once there's more out there I'm sure owners will be talking them up.
2010 Fusion SEL
Sport Blue Metallic
Moon & Tune
#149 of 489 Re: doc fees [austinman7]
Apr 23, 2009 (2:39 pm)
I don't see the Fusion as a sports car or even as a sporty car. A Fusion is a Fusion, . . you can put a wing spoiler and a bigger engine on it, but it still is a front wheel family sedan.
If you care about performance, you need to get something with rear wheel drive . . maybe a Camaro ..that is in the same price range.
#150 of 489 Re: doc fees [tim156]
Apr 24, 2009 (6:09 am)
Yeah, that makes sense. Dealers in my area have had some inventory for a week now, and I was thinking some early adapters would be posting their experiences by now, but it's a little early I suppose.
Good luck with your SEL -- sounds like a nice car. Are you a current Fusion owner, which would give you some insight into the 2010, or did you just order yours based on reviews, etc.?