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Volvo V70, Toyota Highlander, Wagon
#1 of 18 V70 vs Highlander vs???
Oct 04, 2005 (10:17 am)
I need a car that will hold the 5 of us (2+3 kids 7yrs on down), with occasional extras, and get reasonable gas mileage. Will suplement our 2000 Odyssey.
As I continue to boil down my car choices, it's narrowing between the V70 2.4 and the Highlander 4cyl 2wd.
- Nearly identical MPG (mid 20s avg)
- Nearly identical passenger spacing
- Nearly identical cargo (with 3d seat folded)
Where the Highlander is starting to win for me:
Cost, I can order a loaded HL for about $4k less than the V70 Mil Sales price.
Reliability - The Toyotas just have a better record.
About the only significant option I get on the Volvo vs. the HL is the Nav system (on mil order 2.4s), and it would be more of a "luxury" car, but I'm just not sure it's worth it.
By the way, the 4cyl HL gets about identical real-world MPG as the hybrid... it just doesn't burn 7 second 0-60 times (but I can get my speed fix flying jets by myself instead of in a car with my family onboard).
C'mon Volvo enthusiasts - tell me why I should get the V70 (aside from it sort of being a family tradition to have Volvo Wagons)!
#2 of 18 Re: V70 vs Highlander vs??? [pilotpat]
Oct 04, 2005 (11:25 am)
I would take the wife and test drive each as long as you can . spending 4k or saving 4k is not the question, it's what you and your wife really want. good luck
#3 of 18 Re: V70 vs Highlander vs??? [pilotpat]
Oct 05, 2005 (9:57 am)
Don't overlook the Freestyle.
More room, similar MPG and based on Volvo platform. I know it is Ford and this may deter some import owners but this vehicle is getting very good response from its owners. I have a Saab and V70 and just leased a Freestyle. Also have 5 in the family and haven't driven a domestic for 10 yrs.
oh - and less $$ than either Highlander or V70.
#4 of 18 Re: V70 vs Highlander vs??? [toyotabo]
Oct 07, 2005 (11:25 pm)
Toyotabo - Definitely good advice on long test drives. Our problem is that we're overseas in a location with no nearby Volvo dealerships (though my brother has an older V70 and similar family size, so we've got a pretty good handle on it), and Toyota doesn't sell the Highlander here. Our solution it looks like is to have my Dad and brother do a test drive of the two models.
Oh, by the way, what they do sell overseas are some things I think would sell VERY well in the states right now. Evidently, the marketing gurus don't agree.
- Turbodiesels by just about every manufacturer. The Volvo V70 turbodiesel gets nearly 50mpg on the highway, high 30's in real-world combined driving. XC70s are available with the same/similar motor, and I think XC90s also. I asked the Volvo military sales rep in Germany if there were plans to sell them overseas - nope. Converting a European model to US standards very expensive and not a "sure thing."
- Mini-minivans (like the new Mazda5), including turbodiesels.
- Entry-level Mercedes sedans and wagons (again, with diesels as options) at affordable prices (very popular taxicabs), lower option classes. But there's no way that MBUSA will do this - would wipe the US side of the Daimler-Chrysler market off the earth. By the way, I rented their "minibenz" on a trip to Germany that seats 4 very comfortably and safely, 5 in a pinch, with luggage. I averaged 16-17 km/l (39-41mpg) with mixed driving, and that was with autobahn speeds usually between 130-160 kmh (80-100mph)!
#5 of 18 Re: V70 vs Highlander vs??? [pilotpat]
Oct 11, 2005 (7:38 am)
Hope the 4k wasn't shipping? I would set my eye on something local (avoiding the shipping / converting) My brother was in Germany and wanted a Mercedes which the military would have shipped home for almost nothing but coverting it was way out there. good luck
#6 of 18 Forget the V70
Oct 18, 2005 (9:35 pm)
I've been driving a V70 for 5 years and I'm about to ditch it in favor of a Highlander Hybrid. Why? The V70 has been in and out of the repair shop for most of its short life (not even 38K miles yet). Just had to drop $2,000 to replace big parts of the emission system. That on top of replacing other major components and I'm fed up with Volvo -- for life. Ford has taken it and made into just another Ford.
I have high hopes for the Highlander, but only time will tell. At least Toyotas are built to last.
#7 of 18 Re: V70 vs Highlander vs??? [pilotpat]
Nov 18, 2005 (1:33 pm)
My husband had a 98 V70 and just got rid of it due to constant numerous piddly repairs. He loved driving it but ended up happier with his new Outback - says it corners very nicely - and it was WAY cheaper. The darn Volvo was hard to sell as it had been on the Consumer Report "bad" list, and we ended up only getting $6500 for it. If you haven't already purchased your car, go for the Highlander Hybrid. I got mine a month ago and like it very much so far.
#8 of 18 Re: Forget the V70 [poiuyt1]
Dec 01, 2005 (1:09 pm)
Ditto for the wife's old V70.
#9 of 18 XC70 vs. Highland Hybrid
Dec 13, 2005 (3:37 pm)
Anyone have any opinions on a comparison between the Volvo XC70 and Highlander Hybrid?
#10 of 18 VOLVO VS. TOYOTA
Dec 14, 2005 (7:33 pm)
I am not sure if this post will help, but I have had some experience with both brands. I owned a 97 Camry for 6years, it was a good car, but not bulletproof. I will say that for the most part I did not have any major mechanical problems, but after 80k little things began to happen (driver window motor replaced, water pump replaced brake caliper replaced small oil leak) and a few other minor things. I have a relative that is driving a 93 Camry with 248k and some of the same type problems. Thing I have found is it's best to repair Toyotas with original parts and bottom line, they ain't cheap. All that said, my wife drives a Mercedes E320 and they have some problems as well, but they all have been minor electrical problems and yes it cost for repair. The difference in the two cars is at 175k, my wife Benz can cruise 85-90 mph for over a 100 miles (just did it ) without skipping a beat. My Camry at 90k could do it for a while, but you could feel that you were making it cry for mercy. I have a Volvo and it has that same feeling of the Benz, it is solid. Even when you close the doors, it sound like you are closing a vault. That brings me to the final thing, recently, I was in an accident (that's why I don't have the Camry) and the damage done makes me glad I was not speeding. It was pretty ugly after the accident. Everything worked like it should, but I think a Coke can could have held up better than it did in the minor accident I had. To me that's what you are paying for when you buy a Volvo peace of mind that you will be safe. For that reason I would have to go with the Volvo.