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Nissan Versa, Hatchback, Sedan
#865 of 1276 Re: Crash Test Results [flightnurse]
Dec 20, 2006 (2:44 pm)
The Nissan Versa was introduced in the 2007 model year. Beginning with 2007 models manufactured after November 2006, changes were made to the side torso and side curtain airbags to improve occupant protection in side impact crashes (note: information about when a specific vehicle was manufactured is on the certification label typically affixed to the car on or near the driver door). The tested car was manufactured after the modifications had been made.
No note there about any action to retrofit Versas made before November.
I actually misspoke when I said that Honda was reprogramming the Fit's driver front airbag. I re-read the IIHS report, and it isn't clear just what the fix was. But it is clear that Honda is retrofitting existing Fits:
The Fit was evaluated in two 40 mph frontal offset crash tests. In the first test, the driver frontal airbag deployed too early, with the result that high forces were recorded on the dummy's head when it bottomed out the airbag and hit the steering wheel hard, indicating the likelihood of head injuries. This led Honda to modify the frontal airbag deployment characteristics on models produced after November 2006. Also, Honda will initiate a safety improvement campaign to modify at its cost vehicles produced earlier.
#866 of 1276 Re: Crash Test Results [backy]
Dec 20, 2006 (6:00 pm)
Thanks for the information about improvements in the side and curtain airbags. I'm on the verge of buying a Versa, so if one comes in I'll have to check when it was made. I wonder if the improvement can be updated on older Versas (like a software change) or not (like different air bags)?
#867 of 1276 Re: Sold on Versa, but no VST? any deals? [mschmal]
Dec 20, 2006 (6:17 pm)
It appears no one is buying Versas (or other cars) right now. If you assume Edmunds has the correct MSRP price, it doesn't appear too hard to get below MSRP by several hundred to five humdred. Look for a big dealer that has internet salesmen for the best price. Of course one of the games all new car dealers play is to add to MSRP by including mud flaps for $110 and rugs for $150. When I told one salesman I didn't want these items he should remove them, he said he thought all Versas came with them so he couldn't.
#868 of 1276 Re: Sold on Versa, but no VST? any deals? [mschmal]
Dec 20, 2006 (6:56 pm)
$300 markup over invoice? Edmunds.com has the markup over invoice on the base cars ranging from $485 on the 1.8S 6-speed to $600 on the 1.8SL CVT. Then there's the markup on the options; here are some sample markups:
Convenience Package: $93
Sport Package: $93
Rear Spoiler: $90
Audio Package or Satellite Radio: $40
Are Edmunds.com's figures wrong?
#869 of 1276 Re: Sold on Versa, but no VST? any deals? [robandjeanne]
Dec 20, 2006 (8:41 pm)
What proof do you have to make that comment, that "it appears no one is buying the Versa (or ther cars) right now." In USA Today last week, they had an article that stated they are selling. Nissan has a 29 day supply of Versa, Honda and Toyota has about the same for thier B cars. In fact Nissan is bulding Versa at another plant in mexico to keep up with the demand...
BTW all Versa's do come with Mud Flap and carpet kits...
#870 of 1276 Re: Sold on Versa, but no VST? any deals? [flightnurse]
Dec 21, 2006 (8:33 am)
I'll let you know what proof I have when and if I complete my purchase of a Versa. Right now I have a quote that is below MSRP. That seems proof enough to me.
I also mentioned how you could try to get the best price by going to the biggest dealer where they have internet salesmen, know exactly what options you want (I didn't want convenience package only ABS), and see what they say. If you need more proof than that, I can't help you.
For my deal, however, further complications have arisen. I hear I have to check to make sure the car was made in December 2006 to get one with improved torso and curtain airbags (changes were made after November 2006, does that mean only December and newer have the better airbags?). Nissan must have had some problems with the earlier airbags and I guess I'm glad they're still improving things, but having to know what date your potential new car was made seems confusing. I can just hear the salesmen promising they all have the newer airbags. I wonder if the VIN says what month the car was made? Paperwork can be easily changed, but VINs would be solid proof of manufactured date.
#871 of 1276 Re: Sold on Versa, but no VST? any deals? [robandjeanne]
Dec 21, 2006 (9:27 am)
Is this a quote for a Versa wiht ABS and CVT, or are you getting a manual transmission? Don't tell me you're getting the 4sp auto!
#872 of 1276 Re: Sold on Versa, but no VST? any deals? [bobw3]
Dec 21, 2006 (9:49 am)
I probably should follow the advice I keep hearing on TV and not discuss any deals that are not final. I will say the best price I've gotten was with an internet salesman I've never met. When I said "go to" a large dealer with internet salesmen I meant call them.
Mu internet salesman so far seems way more honest than the last real live salesman I talked with who made me wait an hour for his best price, but when I walked came after me with a price $500 less that his best (where do they get these people and how stupid do they think car buyers are?)
#873 of 1276 The date of manufacture can be found...
Dec 21, 2006 (10:25 am)
...on a placard on the front door jamb, usually driver's side.
Dec 21, 2006 (10:38 am)
I talked with Nissan customer service about the improvements made in torso and curtain airbags after November 2006. They acted like this was news to them, so there were no details from Nissan about how involved this change was. Between the lines I inferred they would not be doing a recall or even a retrofit to improve older models, since they viewed this as an improvement not a safety issue. It was the typical stupid conversation with customer service. They said they could tell when a car was made by the VIN, and could do this (but probably not instantly) if I called with a particular VIN, but they wouldn't tell me how to read the VIN myself.