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Re: Versa is a bad choice [307web] by backy
Oct 23, 2005 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: 307web (Oct 23, 2005 3:28 pm)

Not all information on a car is listed on an automaker's web site. The 38 mpg figure was reported during the recent press lauch of the Versa and can be found on multiple web sites--try your favorite search engine on "Nissan Versa 38 overall" and see what you get.
 
People might complain too if you were forced to pay over $18k to get a moonroof on a Civic, because you need to get the top-end EX trim--but that is what Honda makes you do. Keep in mind the "top end" Versa trim, SL, is estimated to be about the same price as the Civic's DX trim. At least Nissan offers cruise--some competitors such as Accent and Rio don't even offer it. Also the Versa will offer options not found on any Civic, such as Intelligent Key and Bluetooth.
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Re: Versa is a bad choice [backy] by 307web
Oct 23, 2005 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 23, 2005 3:37 pm)

Heh, Nissan is worried about equipping cars with Bluetooth, but can't put cruise control any model other than the SL.
Honda has the LX that has what the majority of buyers want and it sells more LXs than any other model for that reason.
If Honda only made the DX and EX it would be different.
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Re: Versa is a bad choice [307web] by backy
Oct 23, 2005 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: 307web (Oct 23, 2005 3:47 pm)

If Honda sold a Civic 5-door in the U.S. it would be different, too.
 
You seem really obsessed with the fact that Nissan doesn't plan to offer cruise on its base Versa trim line. If you really want a Versa S and cruise is important to you, it can be added aftermarket quite easily. Just as it can be on the base trim line for the Civic.
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Re: Versa is a bad choice [backy] by bamacar
Oct 23, 2005 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 23, 2005 3:37 pm)

I think it can be a success in the 12-15k sticker range with discounts. It will be a solid competitor for the Rio, Fit, Accent and Yaris. I don't see much success if it goes for 16-19k. With the extra power and style of the Civic-Mazda3, the Versa won't compete very well. The new Sentra will probably be a real competitor for the Civic segment.
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Re: Versa is a bad choice [307web] by allfiredup
Oct 23, 2005 (4:23 pm)
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Replying to: 307web (Oct 23, 2005 3:28 pm)

This argument really doesn't hold water. Yes, the base model Versa doesn't have cruise available. To get it on a Civic, you have to get the $17,060 LX model. To get it on the Versa you have to get the $15,555 SL model.
 
People would complain if cruise only came on the Civic EX with Nav, that car costs $20,310 which is $5200 more than a base Civic DX. Going from the base Versa S to the SL is only an increase of $2000 and for that you get cruise, power everything, keyless entry, alloy wheels and a few other items.
 
Basically, going from the Versa S to the SL model is the same as upgrading from a Civic DX to an LX, not an EX.
 
As mentioned earlier, some cars in this class don't have cruise on any model- Kia Rio, Hyundai Accent. Many others don't have cruise on the base model- Honda Civic DX, Mazda3 i, Ford Focus S to name a few.
 
The Versa represents a solid value in the sub-Civic range. It's not really a competitor and doubt there will be much cross shopping between the two, so comparisons of the cars aren't really that valid.
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Re: Versa is a bad choice [allfiredup] by 307web
Oct 23, 2005 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: allfiredup (Oct 23, 2005 4:23 pm)

The reason I keep mentioning the cruise control is because this is supposed to be a sub-Civic car. With cruise, the base model would have been a livable econo car for people who do some freeway cruising (maybe a daily freeway commute to work and occasional long trips), but having to bump up to the SL bumps up the price where the styling can no longer be ignored and people start thinking about cars the next level up (like a Civic).
Cruise control cannot be installed aftermarket in some modern cars, so it remains to be seen if an aftermarket cruise control will ever be available for the Versa.
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Re: Versa is a bad choice [307web] by backy
Oct 23, 2005 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: 307web (Oct 23, 2005 5:55 pm)

Your argument doesn't hold water, IMO. If making people get a Versa SL, which costs about the same as a Civic DX, in order to get cruise makes people think about moving up to a Civic, then they'd need to ante up another $1500 or so over and above the Versa SL to get a Civic that has cruise. That's a big bump. More likely, if people want to save money and get features like cruise control, they'll go for something like an Elantra, which has cruise standard on all trim lines, even the base GLS, not a $17k Civic.
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Re: Versa is a bad choice [backy] by 307web
Oct 23, 2005 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 23, 2005 6:12 pm)

OK, the Elantra may be a better choice than the Versa.
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Re: Versa is a bad choice [307web] by backy
Oct 23, 2005 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: 307web (Oct 23, 2005 6:20 pm)

If you want a low-priced car that is a comfortable highway cruiser and has cruise control, yes, I agree. But for anyone who is willing to spend $15k or so, the Versa might have the advantage--in safety if nothing else. I can't wait to drive one and compare it to the Elantra et. al. to find out.
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Nissan Versa SL by jchan2
Oct 23, 2005 (6:50 pm)
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I think that having to bump up to the SL to get Cruise Control is reasonable because the jump isn't too bad, especially if you finance it, and you can get a few more items that you can't get on the S.
 
I think the majority of sales will be the SL. The S, without the available features that you can get on the SL, is a way to advertise a bargain basement price.
 
Then again, you can always get Cruise on a Hyundai Elantra GLS, but an Elantra doesn't get 38MPG combined.

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