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Re: Stability Control? [jaxs1]
by jd10013
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Mar 12, 2008 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Mar 12, 2008 2:33 pm)
I'd guess they'll wait till 2012 on the lower end cars like versa and sentra. Price is just too important on the entry level cars.
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Re: Stability Control? [jd10013]
by jaxs1
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Mar 12, 2008 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: jd10013 (Mar 12, 2008 3:08 pm)
That really isn't an excuse since Nissan offers other options much pricier than stability control (such as the useless "sport package"). Stability control is a $250 option on the Corolla.
Even if they only offered it on the SL, that would be better than nothing. People buying the SL with Intelligent Key and bluetooth are not looking for the cheapest car they can buy.
People would make the same rationalization about it being a cheap car if Intelligent Key wasn't offered and someone asked why not.
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- #1137 of 1196
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Re: Stability Control? [jaxs1]
by jacksan1
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Mar 12, 2008 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Mar 12, 2008 3:18 pm)
If stability control is offered, that must necessarily be coupled with ABS. Since ABS is not standard on the Versa right now, it would have to be an ABS-VSC package, which would probably raise the price of the vehicle equipped that way by $500, until such time the volume lowers the cost. It seems like good money to spend, in my opinion, but some may balk. I don't know.
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Re: Stability Control? [jacksan1]
by backy
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Mar 12, 2008 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Mar 12, 2008 4:28 pm)
Well, get used to the idea. In 3 years every car sold in the U.S. will have ESC, which means ABS too.
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- #1139 of 1196
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Re: Stability Control? [jacksan1]
by jaxs1
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Mar 13, 2008 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Mar 12, 2008 4:28 pm)
It is more forgivable to not have it on a lightly equipped base model, but once you start loading up an SL with an MSRP reaching over $19K, you start wondering where the stability control is.
Nissan simply has stability control has a low priority. You can't even get stability control on a fully loaded Altima 2.5 with leather and navigation system and MSRP of nearly $29,000. Ridiculous.
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Re: Stability Control? [jaxs1]
by jacksan1
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Mar 13, 2008 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Mar 13, 2008 9:36 am)
I, too, have issues with Nissan's approach to ABS and stability control. In other markerts, e.g., Japan, Nissan made these things standard equipment for many of their cars. I have a feeling that they try to get away with a different equipment strategy for North America for now because they think they can.
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Stability control
by mschmal
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Mar 13, 2008 (12:09 pm)
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You try explaining stability control to a soccer mom!
Please let me know how you would do it. I sell cars and most people just stare at you blankly when you talk about yaw control or skid control or using brakes and cutting engine power to return the vehicle to its intended path.
Mark
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Re: Stability control [mschmal]
by jacksan1
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Mar 13, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (Mar 13, 2008 12:09 pm)
Soccer moms or whoever they are need not know how the device works. But the same soccer moms would ask, "Is this car safe?" And if salespeople at other car dealerships say "Ours is safe because it has ABS and stability control, " and the soccer moms find out that this Nissan has neither, they may say, "Whatever these things are, I'd rather have them if they make the car safer."
At least, in theory, the above-mentioned scenario could happen.
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Re: Stability control [jacksan1]
by jaxs1
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Mar 13, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Mar 13, 2008 12:19 pm)
Interesting video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3m24bjkfg0
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Re: Stability control [jaxs1]
by jacksan1
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Mar 13, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Mar 13, 2008 12:19 pm)
When I was in IT sales, and when I knew that my system had some features that our competitors did not have, my strategy was to put the fear of God in the prospect, making them wonder what would happen if something did occur and yet s/he chose a different company who could not provide (what my company offered) that would have rescued him/her. This tactic worked, especially when the person was not that technically saavy.
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