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Re: Manual shift with CVT ??? [flightnurse] by jacksan1
Oct 10, 2007 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: flightnurse (Oct 09, 2007 10:35 pm)

I agree with Tony that the Versa with CVT has a good low-end torque. The Versa's CVT is very well-programmed to give you that. One thing that people have to often make an adjustment to is to let the RPM go and stay where the CVT programming is taking it which is the optimal RPM for that throttle opening. A lot of people who are not used to driving CVT get confused by that behavior and either let the foot off the pedal which leads to the RPM dropping (defeating the program and losing the torque!), or stepping in too much without waiting for the CVT to take care of itself.
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Re: Manual shift with CVT ??? [flightnurse] by zombietom3
Oct 10, 2007 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: flightnurse (Oct 09, 2007 10:35 pm)

Thanks for the reply. You had me thinking I must be too old to shop for a car without adult supervision when you mentioned the "Rouge." I had to do a little Googling to realize you meant the Rogue. It's an attractive young beast but a little more than I want to spend and a little too big for us and our small garage (I'd have to get rid of stuff I'm storing in there to make the parking space big enough for wife to use comfortably). I'll just have to drive the Versa CVT to see what it feels like. Maybe I can learn to love it too.
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Re: Manual shift with CVT ??? [jacksan1] by flightnurse
Oct 10, 2007 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Oct 10, 2007 5:39 am)

Jacksan how have you been ? The CVT is not for everybody and that is what I tell people when they ask me about the Versa, but I am sold on the CVT and my next Nissan must have it..
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Re: Manual shift with CVT ??? [zombietom3] by flightnurse
Oct 10, 2007 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: zombietom3 (Oct 10, 2007 6:25 am)

Just remember this, you dont have to "nail" the throttle" to make it go fast. That only works if you want to pass someone on the freeway, but around town,1/3 or 1/2 throttle is all you need to get moving very smartly..
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Hi Tony by jacksan1
Oct 11, 2007 (1:29 pm)
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Hi Tony. Not bad, thanks for asking - just busy. How is everything with you and your Versa?
 
I like CVT. I was really fascinated when I drove a car with CVT for the first time (JDM Honda Fit rental), since the tachometer needle stayed in the exact same spot while the car picked up speed. It took me about an hour to get used to it, and after that, I started wondering why more cars weren't using CVT.
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Re: Hi Tony [jacksan1] by flightnurse
Oct 11, 2007 (4:03 pm)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Oct 11, 2007 1:29 pm)

I think most americans aren't ready for change and the CVT is a big change.
 
Tony
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Re: Hi Tony [jacksan1] by snakeweasel
Oct 12, 2007 (3:50 am)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Oct 11, 2007 1:29 pm)

I started wondering why more cars weren't using CVT.
 
It is my understanding that CVTs have to be used in lower HP cars. Something about the belt/chains ability to withstand friction wear.
 
Advances in CVT's may change this but as far as I know it is still restricted by HP.
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Re: Hi Tony [snakeweasel] by flightnurse
Oct 12, 2007 (4:48 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Oct 12, 2007 3:50 am)

well both the max and altima V6;s have CVT and they are making more then 250HP
 
Tony
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Re: Hi Tony [flightnurse] by jacksan1
Oct 12, 2007 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: flightnurse (Oct 12, 2007 4:48 am)

I think that up until fairly recently the big HP/torque was a critical issue with the durability of CVT. That is starting to change, as Tony has mentioned.
 
CVT's advantages become less obvious in cars that otherwise have a high number of gears in their AT's (such as 7- and 8-AT used in the Mercedes and LS430), and in cars that have a lot of torque across the wide RPM band. The latter is true because a car like that can drive well without shifting gears much. But in smaller cars that have to use their engines more efficiently to get moving, CVT is hard to beat.
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Re: Hi Tony [flightnurse] by jd10013
Oct 12, 2007 (4:12 pm)
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Replying to: flightnurse (Oct 11, 2007 4:03 pm)

I think most americans aren't ready for change and the CVT is a big change.
 
I doubt most american even know/care. anybody who would consider themselves a "car person" would of course notice and be interested in the difference. so far though, the inclusion of the cvt in most nissan vehicles hasn't hurt sales. In fact, nissan car sales (just cars, not trucks and suv's) are up pretty good this year. If anything, the cvt is a plus for them.

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