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#150 of 1442 More Hybrids including EDGE by dw438

Jan 23, 2006 (10:15 am)

Replying to: ANT14 (Nov 08, 2005 11:16 pm)
Today, the company is announcing that hybrid versions of the Ford Five Hundred, Mercury Montego, Ford Edge and Lincoln MKX will debut in the 2008-2010 timeframe. The new hybrids will join the Ford Escape and Mercury Mariner hybrids, which are on sale today, as well as the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan hybrids, which will debut in 2008. Overall, Ford Motor Company plans to build 250,000 hybrids a year by 2010. --
 Some good news for January 22 out of Ford.

#151 of 1442 bri719 by rmanke

Jan 23, 2006 (11:11 am)

bri719, yes, my Sables were well cared for, well serviced and purchased with less than 50M miles. That's not the point. Other than the couple of cars I've purchased for my high school kids to destroy, I only keep a vehicle for 3 years, or less and resale is critical to me. Although a significant component of resale is the percentage sold as fleet, etc., perceived long term reliability is also a part of it. If I move from my Honda Pilot to an Edge, I'd like to have some potential to, at least, get close to a good resale value when I trade it two, or three years down the road.

#152 of 1442 6 sigma by mschmal

Jan 24, 2006 (12:06 pm)

Hey ANT explain what a 6 Sigma is and better yet, what is a 6 Sigma Black Belt?
 
I heard pricing will start at around $27k to around $35k.
 
I also heard that the CX-7 is not off of the same platform but rather off of the Mazda6 platform. True?
 
I also heard that the 4x4 system in the Mazda will be different. True?
 
Mark.

#153 of 1442 Mschmal by ANT14

Jan 24, 2006 (12:31 pm)

The CX-7 is as different to the CD3 (Edge) Platform, as the LS is to the Mustangs, or the Volvo P2, is to Ford's D3. That of the CX-7 has numerous things different, than that of the CD3, but itself, the CD3 stems from a glorified C1, improved in such a way which makes it almost altogether different, even if the core essential structure members are tailored differently.
 
I've addressed this discussion before where there's no set amount of modifications/tailoring/engineering done to a platform, that allows it to be called "all new", so all depends upon how the manufacturer states it. And itself, there's no "Yes or No" answer to it because again, there's no industry standard as to what is required to call it, "different".
 
Months ago, Honda stated the Ridgeline was designed upon totally new platform. IN reality, it's derived from the Pilot/Oddysey which itself stems from the U.S. Accord, but don't tell that that because it upsets them, but then again, it's understandable since there's no set criteria.
 
It's not like someone can say "Well if the wheelbase is increase" or "if the mounting points of the suspension" or "if the firewall width or height is altered" etc... Such criteria would allow everyone to have a clear understand of what is really redesigned, and what is really "all new".
 
Ironically, there's numerous asian competitors which state "All new", yet, only the wheelbase, increased tracks f/r, and thicker steel used in some structural points, and they deem it all new. So, you be the jury.
 
In retrospect, is the CX-7 built upon a new platform, I would say 90% of it is, but uses the "philosophy" of the C1 platform (at least in it's frontal structure), for the end result.
 
Will we see other vehicles stem from this sort of platform, Yes... It might LAND her at any moment. Is it 626 derived? Not at all. Does it share anything with the CD3 (Edge and MKX) Various things, but not enough to call them twins (A'la Tribute/Escape/Mariner).
 
The 4x4 system in the Mazda is suited differently because of the drivetrain associated with it.
 
I'll see if I can find you a link that explains/describes 6-Sigma, and what their role is specifically.

#154 of 1442 Edge and Lincoln MKX by au94

Jan 24, 2006 (2:52 pm)

These just zoomed to the top of my list to possibly replace my 4runner. Especially the MKX, I like the interior better. Can't wait to see the production versions so we'll know what the mileage, pricing etc is.
 
I'd say this is a positive step on the road to recovery. Late? Maybe, but its a start.

#155 of 1442 Re: 6 sigma [mschmal] by dodgeman07

Jan 24, 2006 (7:03 pm)

Replying to: mschmal (Jan 24, 2006 12:06 pm)
Hey ANT explain what a 6 Sigma is and better yet, what is a 6 Sigma Black Belt?

In a nutshell - 6 Sigma is a quality assurance initiative to reduce defects to zero. Sigma is the standard deviation of the processes variation. 6 Sigma means the variation is so minute that you will have plus & minus 6 standard deviations (of process variation) within the tolerance established for the process.
There's cost reduction also, from reduced scrap, and better material flow. I'm a quality engineer for bearing manufacturer that is tier one to the OEM's. We don't have any 6 Sigma Black Belts at our plant. They're certified experts in implementing 6 Sigma systems and can make upwards of $150K/annually.
Hope this helps.

#156 of 1442 Re: Freestyle vs. Edge [freealfas] by jchan2

Jan 24, 2006 (9:18 pm)

Replying to: freealfas (Jan 19, 2006 7:16 pm)
No I have not driven one, and yes I am basically jumping on the bandwagon in regards to its power. Almost everything I've read about it complains about the power.
 
I actually like the Freestyle a lot. It is a quite practical car, and during the Employee Pricing Fire Sale the prices were very good. But Ford is going to move the Freestyle over to Mercury, so I guess the price will go up.

#157 of 1442 Re: Freestyle vs. Edge [jchan2] by ehaase

Jan 25, 2006 (10:34 am)

Replying to: jchan2 (Jan 24, 2006 9:18 pm)
But Ford is going to move the Freestyle over to Mercury, so I guess the price will go up
 
Not anymore. Automotive News announced this week that Ford has decided to keep the Freestyle. I don't know if Mercury will get a version, but the Freestyle will be in the lineup for years to come.

#158 of 1442 Re: Freestyle vs. Edge [ehaase] by jchan2

Jan 25, 2006 (8:40 pm)

Replying to: ehaase (Jan 25, 2006 10:34 am)
They might change their mind again though...
 
I'd like to see it stay with Ford. That means a lower price tag for consumers like me

#159 of 1442 Re: Freestyle vs. Edge [jchan2] by bobw3

Jan 27, 2006 (8:46 am)

Replying to: jchan2 (Jan 25, 2006 8:40 pm)
I think both Freestyle and Edge should stay with Ford, and the Edge should get a small 3rd row, like the new RAV4, Suburu, and other types of vehicles. I think all SUVs, CUVs, crossovers, etc should have a 3rd row, even if it's pretty small, just to give them more versatility.
 
As far as the argument about the Freestyle & Edge in competition, that's like saying the Corolla & Camry are in competetion because they both seat 5. The Camry is bigger & more expensive and can seat 5 a whole lot more comfortably than the Corolla. Similarly, an Edge with 3 rows may be able to seat 7, but then the Freestyle could seat 7 a whole lot more comfortably since it's bigger, and it would cost more.
 
In my opinion, any SUV, CUV, crossover, etc that doesn't offer a 3rd row will be in the minority, and I think that's great. It's good to have the option (especially with a fore/aft sliding 2nd row) of fitting in a couple of extra people/kids, particularly on these types of vehicles.

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