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SUVs Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8 vs Chevy TrailBlazer SS vs Porsche Cayenne Turbo
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Replying to: jerrywimer (Dec 28, 2005 6:46 am) The SRT- If you want all out performance that beats just about every SUV(yes this includes Porsche and BMW) and even some hi-po sports cars and coupes but don't care about towing capacity, go with the Jeep. The SS- If you want a great performing SUV that can also tow another SS behind it with the magnificent Corvette motor and the ability to go with a 2WD version, go with the Chevy. I personally chose the Jeep over the Chevy because of the performance advantage. I've got a Commander and a Ram, and both are HEMI-equipped. so towing and cargo capacity issues are lost for me. With that said, the Chevy is a great SUV in that it has everyday praticallity in a $32K package. It has many virtuous advantages over the Jeep, except for couple of things: HP and the ability to out-corner a Porsche Boxster and hang with just about any sports car out there.(NO Ford GT's, Vette Z06's, tho) |
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I like the Jeep, and I can admit that the SRT8 will show me his tail lights (assuming we're both stock). AWD doesn't much interest me, particularly in South Florida. 2WD makes for more versatile tranny and differential options, among other things. Plus, big smoky burnouts amuse me, although I don't do them as a matter of course. But here's the one truly compelling argument for me. My TBSS was $29,203 out the door - tax, tag, title, no down payment, no trade, just Bleeding Red Tag discounts. Now I get to relive my 1996 Impala SS, and still put the kids and dog in it. Quite the bargain. And I understand the shortcomings - quite frankly, I'm not big on domestic cars, and my other car is still a 2005 Lexus RX330 - but for $29,203 I bought a motor with a car, so to speak, the car happens to be a TBSS. It probably isn't the overall car that the RX330 is, or that the Acura MDX I was pining for would be, but DAMN that motor makes up for it. And it leaves me a whole bunch of cash to do other stupid things with, motor related or otherwise (like repairing my hurricane damaged porch a THIRD time in 14 months). $29,203. Cheers, Bruce
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Replying to: blautens (Dec 30, 2005 11:33 am)
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Replying to: blautens (Dec 30, 2005 11:33 am) The TBSS is definitely a sweet looking truck (especially in black) with plenty of room, power, performance and towing. And at $30k it is a bargain. The GC SRT-8 has acceptable room (it IS an SUV) and towing, and it too is a bad looking truck. But it has ULTIMATE power and performance, and that is where it is separated from the rest. At $45k out the door and its limited production #'s, it seems to be justified as a bargain just the same. BOTH are gas guzzlers (no gas guzzler tax though - yay!) and BOTH will out perform most cars on the road. Bottom line - BOTH are gonna turn heads (and ears  )
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Replying to: davidc1 (Dec 30, 2005 3:10 pm) Dislikes: (keep in mind this relative to my last 3 cars - Lexus, Toyota, Honda) fit/finish, some minor ergonomics, switch feel/quality, interior material quality, wind noise, lack of rear seat legroom and access (my RX330 is like a limo, relatively speaking), base stereo quality (even my base Honda stereo sounded better). The 20 inch wheels make it follow grooves in the road a tiny bit, but well worth the trade off to get the traction this beast needs. I knew the shortcomings of this TBSS - a carefully optioned Honda Pilot would be more practical for me, probably more reliable, and address almost all of the dislikes I mentioned. But a Pilot (even my RX330) is a precision appliance. Little emotion or character. The TBSS (or SRT8) is a CAR with soul, something you can feel passionate about (okay, maybe I have problems). I think both the SRT8 and TBSS are unique vehicles that are unlikely to disappoint their owners. Kudos to GM and to DC for making these.
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I read on another forum that someone may have cracked the PCM system on the LS2, meaning there may be more power to get out of the LS2 to reduce quarter mile times.  Stay tuned and watch out Hemi...
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Replying to: gmfan (Jan 01, 2006 7:08 am) |
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Replying to: gmfan (Jan 01, 2006 7:08 am) Chris is famous for his work with GM vehicles, including the Pontiac GTO's, another LS2 application. He believes that an honest 50 HP was left on the table, and also torque management that really leaves something to be desired. Combined with a new CAI to replace the factory CAI (yup, that's a functional CAI inlet in the grille under the headlight), it should be bolt on goodness that really wakes up the LS2. Most believe the tranny to be good to 500 HP, and the rear end for even more (it's a 9.5 inch LSD similar to what's in the 2500 series trucks - pretty tough).
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have always been good for "hiding" power that the factory puts in it. The Hypertech 3 module is a great way to uncover that hidden power. But in late January, Mopar Performance is said to release a Stage 2 PCM upgrade that'll take the SRT up to 550hp. That's 550 horsepower in a truck that weighs only 4450 pounds. And with the already more than capable suspension and wheel/tire setup, you're talking some even more serious performance. I'll be sure to be first in line when this comes out. It's good to see that GM and DC is taking the step up in this growing area of the industry. It's a good thing to see them stepping up to the Brits and the Germans with their overpriced and underperforming SUV's(SAV's, I'm sorry). Roll on DC and GM. Now if GM could just get the SS Silverado just right, it'll be just perfect.
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Replying to: blautens (Dec 31, 2005 8:08 am)
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