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BMW 6 Series, BMW M6, Car Leasing, Coupe, Convertible
#101 of 212 Re: Current MF buy rate on M6? [m6_4_me]
by Car_man HOST
Aug 23, 2007 (4:09 am)
Greetings to the appropriately named m6_4_me. The money factors that you were quoted look about right to me. BMW is not currently providing any lease support on the 2007 M6. Having said this, it is running a special loyalty promotion that reduces its standard money factor by .00085 for returning BMW FS lessees. If you are a current BMW lease customer, you should be able to do much better than the factor that you were quoted.
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#102 of 212 Car_Man Help needed on Certified Pre-Owned 645 lease
by icyblue1203
Oct 24, 2007 (8:21 pm)
Hey Car_Man,
I am considering leasing a certified pre-owned 2005 645 convertible through my local dealership. I would only lease it for 36 months and 12K miles per year. Can you help me with lease rates and MF numbers and residuals on used 04 or 05 6 series coupes and convertibles? Thanks!
#103 of 212 Re: Car_Man Help needed on Certified Pre-Owned 645 lease [icyblue1203]
by Car_man HOST
Nov 06, 2007 (4:19 am)
Hi icyblue1203. Unfortunately, given all of the variables that are associated with them and their general lack of popularity I personally do not keep tabs on the details of manufacturers' CPO lease programs. Sorry that I could not be of more help. One thing to keep in mind though is that CPO lease program are often not that attractive. Consumers are often able to get similar, or even better deals on leases of brand new vehicles then they are able to get on equivalent used vehicles. That may not necessarily be the case in this situation, but you definitely should get a price quote on a new 6 to compare with the price of the used 6 that you are interested in before pulling the trigger.
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#104 of 212 650Ci lease question
by mkp6er
Nov 19, 2007 (2:43 pm)
Hi,
I'm considering a lease on either 2007/2008 650Ci. How do I determine if I'm getting a good deal?
I'm not familiar with leasing programs however, it appears BMW is offering $4500 rebates on leases of 2007 vehicles to clear them out. What should I expect the price of the car to be compared to invoice pricing? The dealer is claiming their best price is $5k over MSRP (ridiculous!) and for a 2007 model it is $1500 over MSRP.
For a 2 or 3 year lease the
2008 is 1400/mo with $10K down
2007 is 1200/mo with $5k down
Why do they add salestax to the price of the lease calculation? tax rates differ and you really dont pay sales tax if you dont buy the car...
thanks,
#105 of 212 Re: 650Ci lease question [mkp6er]
by ricardoghunter
Nov 20, 2007 (1:54 pm)
mkp6, where are you located?
I'd like to briefly relate the following experience:
I got a quote from a dealer who posted a lease offer for a 6-speed equipped 07 M6 online: 30 months, 10k/year, $0 down, $1372/mo.
Sounds good, right? Especially considering your rates on 08/07 650s. It gets better, though.
I went to yet another dealership with that offer in hand and a laptop. The laptop had an Excel spreadsheet on it that had formulae for calulating lease details- you plug in the numbers, and it spits out the lease payment.
Anyway, when I first showed up, before presenting any of the above, I was offered an 07 650i for $1408/mo on the terms above. They must have seen the disdain on my face as I pulled out the other offer and my laptop. I told them the 07 650i offer made no sense given the m6 offer I had in hand. I asked them to do better than the m6 offer on their own m6. I won't disclose the terms, but they DID do better- FAR better. They applied the BMW rebate to bring the price down to invoice, though, so they are still making a good amount of money... but I was satisfied with the offer.
By the way, the offer required one month's payment. Don't be afraid to try for an 07 M6- those things are not selling and are subject to the same rebates. Some dealerships are doing very well, though, so they may not be so accomodating.
BTW, the rebate is $4500 off of INVOICE, NOT MSRP. So if the dealer paid $91k for your car, they are in essence only paying $86,500 for it with that rebate. That should be your starting point in negotiations, not the 100k+ MSRP.
#106 of 212 Re: 650Ci lease question [ricardoghunter]
by mkp6er
Nov 20, 2007 (3:46 pm)
Thanks for the reply! I'm in northern CA. I havent really ventured out to get multiple quotes as yet, but will do so this week. From my research, it does appear that the cars are a bit cheaper in the SE, and dealers are more willing to negotiate price. I've not had that experience yet, although I have had 3 salesmen from the same dealership contact me this week, each trying to sell me a new car, claiming they have new incentives to clear out the 07 inventory.
I have also heard from friends in the EC, that when you buy a new BMW, a weekend driving class is included in the price at the BMW driving school. I've not heard that in California. Were you offered the M driving course with your purchase?
Nov 21, 2007 (7:52 am)
This may be the case. I'm not sure if that includes the lease of a new M. I can always ask. My dealer is working on getting me another car- another salesperson sold my car out from underneath me.
#108 of 212 Advice sought on M6 lease
by bmwfan23
Nov 27, 2007 (9:06 pm)
Carman,
Good advice so far...thanks for the previous posts. I have an offer from a dealer I would like your opinion on. 2007 M6 coupe, msrp ~109k, cap cost of 101k, residual 72% (on 2 year lease), mf .00290 and a pretax payment of $1512/month with no money down (2 years, 10k miles per year). The dealer is also willing to absorb my current lease-2006 Z4 with 14 months left at $450/month (on a 30 month lease) at no additional charge. Does this sound like a good deal to you? Anyone else feel free to comment as well. Thanks again.
#109 of 212 Re: Advice sought on M6 lease [bmwfan23]
by Car_man HOST
Dec 19, 2007 (4:35 am)
You're very welcome, bmwfan23. The car that you are interested in probably has a spread of around $8,500 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. The $8,000 discount that you were quoted looks good to me, especially given the fact that the dealer is absorbing the cost of getting you out of your Z4 lease early. BMW Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor for a 24 month lease of this car is .00270 for consumers who pay a security deposit at lease signing and .00285 with the waiver if the security deposit. That's pretty close to what you were quoted. Overall, I would say that this is a pretty good deal for this car.
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Dec 21, 2007 (4:24 pm)
i'm looking at a lease on a new 2007 650cic msrp 94,470. the price i was quoted was 2249 at signing and 1107 for 36 mos, 100,000 yr with a residual of 58,500. Is this a good deal? Thanks