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#423 of 803 Re: Mercedes-Benz R-Class: Lease Questions [dwws]
by sand529
May 14, 2007 (8:16 pm)
Is the MSRP of the car $51,550? If so the upfront costs seem excessive especially the cap cost reduction of $5,000. And the 33 months is a bit odd? Do u know if you are going through a private bank or through MB Credit. Also are you sure you only qualify for Tier 2 credit? I just leased an R350 and the MSRP was $54,200 and the capitalized cost (selling price) was $49,500 and my monthly payment is 568 and change. The disposition fee is standard from MB credit. Also if you divide the $5,000 cap cost over 33 months, its 151.52 per month, add that to your $494 per month and your at $644.52 per month. I think you can do better, but I dont know the penalty for tier 2 credit. Maybe your wife will qualify for tier 1? Here are may's lease factors from MB credit (tier 1). The money factor you posted above is for tier 1 for 24 months (see below). Something does add up here so I'd investigate a bit more and possibly visit another dealer...
2007 R350 4WD Wagon
24 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00055 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00100 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00100 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 40% of MSRP – .00370 Base Rate
Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year. Add 2% to Residual for 12k mi/yr and 3% for 10k mi/yr on all terms
#424 of 803 Re: Mercedes-Benz R-Class: Lease Questions [dwws]
by sand529
May 14, 2007 (8:17 pm)
Yes its a bunch of B.S. in my opinion. Also when you go back get the following information:
MSRP
Cap Cost (with and without cap cost reduction)
Residual Value
Money Factor
Post up and someone can run the numbers and let you know if its in line.
#425 of 803 Re: Mercedes-Benz R-Class: Lease Questions [sand529]
by dwws
May 15, 2007 (12:04 am)
Hi sand529:
Yes, the MSRP is $51500. The salesman said that Mercedes does not lease for 36 month terms. He said they use 33 months or 39 months. I do not know if that is true, but the advertised offer for May 2007 on the Mercedes Benz website of $489/month for an R350 with P1 package & heated fron seats is for a 33 month lease (with a similar deal of $549/month for an ML350 with P1 package and heated fron seats). Both of those deals require a cap cost reduction; $2750 for the R350 and $2850 for the ML350. Also, He told me that the selling price of $48,895 was $500 above his invoice price, but this afternoon I told him that it seemed to me that it was $900 above his invoice he told me that the $400 difference was some sort of fee that all Mercedes Benz dealers are required to pay when they participate in an advertised lease deal or something like that. I am not happy that I was not told about that fee upfront, because $48,895 is NOT $500 above his cost, it is $900 above. How can I find out if this "fee" is real or just him padding his profit? I also asked if there were any factory-to-dealer incentives or "holdbacks" of any kind and he said no, but I don't know how to find out if he is telling the truth. How long is your lease on your R350? Did you make a cap cost reduction? Also, where did you find the published Mercedes lease factors (residulas & money factors)for Tier 1 credit for May? Is there alist of Tier 2 lease factors? Lastly, How do I know if I only qualify for Tier 2 credit? I know that my credit is not perfect, but the salesman is saying that he is going to try to talk to his business/sales manager and get me "bumped up" to Tier 1 credit; how can he do that? Am I being suckered? I really need to know, because if I am, I will go elsewhere. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
David in NJ
#426 of 803 2008 Changes/Lease deal
by mylt4
May 15, 2007 (6:01 pm)
Hello, Does anyone want to take a quess on what/how the 2008 is going to be price/packages? I have some time until I have to get out of my current lease but might want to pull the trigger this month (unless some one thinks next months deal would be better)with the good deals out there.
Thanks for any help. Mike in NJ.
#427 of 803 CAN I GET AN OPINION ASAP ??? THANKS
by fletch58
May 20, 2007 (12:23 pm)
Quote for an R-350 w P1 & PARKTRONIC , 33 mth, 17.5k miles, 3K total out of pocket, $620 plus tax
FACTOR IS .00055
COST $46,500
STICKER LIKE $48,760
What do you guys think ?
#428 of 803 Re: CAN I GET AN OPINION ASAP ??? THANKS [fletch58]
by mylt4
May 22, 2007 (5:26 am)
looks high, what is the resididual with 17.5 K miles?
#429 of 803 Re: Car Man, et al please comment on deal [svrlin]
by airsickostrich
Jun 06, 2007 (2:27 pm)
I got min in May.
07 R350 Pewter / Macadamia interior
P2
DVD entertainment
Petwer paint, upgraded wheels, Lighting package, entertainment package, navigation.....basically fully loaded.
MSRP $63000
Paid $57500
CAP COST 51000. (6000 down)
24 months/ 12000 miles
$560/month (tax included)
I too was wondering on the Wear and tear coverage.
#430 of 803 MF/Resid for June, 33 month lease?
by desgnconcpts
Jun 18, 2007 (8:38 am)
Hello Car_Man,
Can you post the "special" 33 month MF and Residual for the R350? 15K miles.
Thanks!
#431 of 803 I drive 25,000 miles per year-should I lease or buy?
by matino
Jun 29, 2007 (7:55 am)
I am getting mixed advice from MB dealers on this. Please help!!
I drive 25,000 miles per year, should I lease or buy? One dealer is telling me that I should just pre-purchase my miles upfront and still lease. Another is telling me that leasing is not an option for me because I drive too many miles. Thoughts? Opinions? Advice?
Also, doesn't it cost more to insure a leased vehicle than one you own?
#432 of 803 R320 in Metro Detroit
by mbman2
Jun 29, 2007 (11:49 am)
Mercedes of Novi has this lease
2007 R320 4Matic
$329/mo
10,000 mi a year
$2500 due at signing
Good?