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Re: Is this a decent deal on R 350? by hockey81
Oct 22, 2006 (6:26 am)
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One problem with the West coast dealers, I live in New England. Has anyone found that type of discounting in the Northeast? I looked at the R 500 it had a better deal as far as the discount but the difference in the money factor was an offset. Also the dealer selection for the R500 was limited to black which my kids said would only be good it I were a funeral director (I agree).
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Signed my lease for the R500 by fabeneag
Oct 22, 2006 (9:32 am)
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Thanks to everyone in the forum for their feedback. It has been very helpful to me!!
 
In the Boston area and signed lease for '06 Iridium Silver w ash R500. Has premium package, design II wheels and center row console. MSRP was around $62,000. Cap cost for the lease was around $48,000. 15K miles. 39 months at $730 incl. tax. Up front totals $1,095.
 
Feels like I got a good deal given what's been on this board. Selection in Northeast isn't great. Wanted Sirius but couldn't fine one that I liked.
 
Thanks again!
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One Pay leases by jimscays
Oct 23, 2006 (1:19 pm)
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I have a question. If you do a one pay lease, are you paying the difference between the selling price and the residual price at the end of the lease?
For example, if the MSRP was $52,000 and the sales price ended up being $40,000 and you were doing a 36 month lease, the residual being 56% of $52,000 which is $29,120, on a one pay lease would you then be paying $10,880 plus tax, tag, and bank doc fees? Or is there still a finance charge associated with the lease even tho you are paying all of the payments upfront? Thanks your information would really help and ia much appreciated.
I am debating between the R class and a loaded FX 35, both have similair sales price numbers.
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Re: One Pay leases [jimscays] by martinf
Oct 23, 2006 (10:44 pm)
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Replying to: jimscays (Oct 23, 2006 1:19 pm)

There is still a "finance charge." Since you are not paying the full $40,000 sales price, but only the difference between that price and the residual, you pay interest or a finance charge on the $40,000. With MB Financial, they do give you a break of .00110 on the money factor(approximately a 2.64% discount), but it has a floor of .00150. For example, if the MF is .00295 (7.08%)on a monthly pay lease, your single pay MF will be .00185 (4.44%), representing a discounting of the rate by 2.64%. However, if you are considering the 2007 R350, the monthly lease MF is .00165. It would not make sense to do the single pay on that car since they would only lower your MF to the floor MF of .00150. At that point, keep the money in the bank (World Savings has great CD rates that you won't find on bankrate.com since they are usually odd terms like 5, 7, or 13 months)!
 
That is also why your credit score is important. I originally thought that by doing the single pay, the finance company would not even need to check your credit score. The only problem with that reasoning is that your single pay only covers a portion of the $40,000+ car you are driving away with. I hope this helps!
 
Between the FX35 and a 2006 R350, you will probably find the R350 to be far cheaper to lease. You are getting the benefit of a high MSRP (higher residual value) and a large discount from that MSRP that essentially will wipe out 23% of the 44% depreciation. I do not think you will find similar numbers on the FX35.
 
                                                          As an additional note, the sweet spot on the R350 lease is the 27 month lease. The residual value is 67%, so with the $12,000 discount, you are actually only going to pay an effective 10% in depreciation, or about $5200. Increasing the lease term to 36 months has you paying an additional 11% for just 9 more months of lease term. This is a highly unusual set of circumstances wherein it is actually cheaper to take the shorter lease than the longer one. Good luck and try to find the R350 that is equipped to your liking. You won't pay that much more for a heavier equipped car because of this unusual high MSRP/high discount scenario. Do be sure to check out the 27 month numbers.
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What do you think of this special on R500 by
Oct 23, 2006 (11:55 pm)
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I have been getting emails from a dealership in Los Angeles
area offering very attractive price on their R500 since they don't have the color I am looking for so I called other dealers to see if they would beat/match the special offered by the first dealer so far they either reject the offer or would ask me to go down to their dealership saying they can't quote prices on the phone or by email. Here is part of the ad relating to R500.
 
Please let me know if this is possible.
  
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2007 R350
(Only 2 available / No substitutions)
(Premium Package 1 and Cargo Cover)
MSRP = $48,150
Drive-off Total = $4,999
 
7,500 miles per year
 
27 months = $393 + tax
 
or
 
10k miles per year
 
27 months = $410 + tax
 
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2006 R500
 
$16,500 off MSRP
 
Sample
 
(18in Wheels,Comfort Pkg,Entertainment Pkg,Sunroof Pkg)
MSRP = $59,430
 
Your low Price = $42,930
or
 
Lease (sample)
 
Drive-off = $2,999
10k miles Per year
 
27 months = $389 + tax
   -----------------------------------------------------
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Re: One Pay leases [martinf] by jimscays
Oct 24, 2006 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: martinf (Oct 23, 2006 10:44 pm)

Thanks for your advise, appreciate it very much.
 
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Re: What do you think of this special on R500 [] by martinf
Oct 24, 2006 (11:14 pm)
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Replying to: unknown (Oct 23, 2006 11:55 pm)

That is Simonson's ad from Santa Monica. Very attractive pricing on both, but the real deal is the 2006 R500. Check with Fletcher Jones in Newport Beach, internet department. They will likely meet the Santa Monica deal on their R500's and I believe they still have a large stock. Don't be afraid of a more equipped vehicle than you want. The leasing numbers are usually not that different.
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One pay by gtli
Oct 25, 2006 (12:43 pm)
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what happens if you do a one pay lease and the car is totlaed or stolen?
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Re: What do you think of this special on R500 [martinf] by sussan
Oct 25, 2006 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: martinf (Oct 24, 2006 11:14 pm)

The second part of the ad is about 2006 R500.
I called the Fletcher Jones in Newport Beach
and even email the ad to them but they don't
want to quote prices on the phone or email, I
think that can cost them at least my business
since I don't want to drive 3 hours round trip
to go to Newport Beach and not get the deal.
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Re: One pay [gtli] by martinf
Oct 25, 2006 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: gtli (Oct 25, 2006 12:43 pm)

I think the "gap" insurance that is included in the MB Financial Lease will cover that eventuality, but I would check with MB Financial directly to make sure. I have seen that objection to the one-pay lease option before, but I do not know the veracity of those comments. In fact, I may just call MB Financial myself tomorrow to try to ascertain the real story. Somehow, I can't imagine that MB Financial would make the single pay lease available and not provide a significant caveat if there was a significant risk of a serious problem were a theft or total loss were to occur.

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