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#320 of 740 Re: 2007 R500 advice needed [rider88] by rider88 Oct 18, 2006 (9:12 pm)
Replying to: rider88 (Oct 17, 2006 1:32 pm) Any comments on this?   I see so many great info on '06, but I am looking at an '07.    Need some comments/help on this quote:    '07 R500 MSRP $66340, out-the-door cost around $3900 (1st month, all taxes, bank fee, registration, etc..), $0 cap-cost reduction, Term 27 months, 15K miles. Monthly around $730.    Any thoughts on these numbers, and any suggestions on what I should be targeting?    Any feedback would be much appreciated! Replies to this message: martinf (Oct 19, 2006 9:11 pm) rider88 (Oct 19, 2006 9:52 pm) martinf (Oct 20, 2006 9:59 pm)
#321 of 740 Re: 2007 R500 advice needed [rider88] by martinf Oct 19, 2006 (9:11 pm)
Replying to: rider88 (Oct 18, 2006 9:12 pm) First, the real deal on these Mercedes R Class vehicles is the 2006 vintage. With up to $16,500 off MSRP on these cars, you are getting pre-refunded about 25% out of the 35% depreciation part of your lease (based on 15,000 miles/yr.), leaving you to only pay for about 10% of the MSRP in depreciation. Even with the money factor at .00400, that break on the depreciation component of your lease is very hard to beat. Net cost with minimal drive-offs on a comparably equipped 2006 is about $540/month, about 25% less than your 2007.   That being said, I do not understand your $3900 out the door costs. 1st month should be $730, bank fee should be $795, even California registration is about $380. I don't know where the extra $2000 is coming in, unless you live in a state that charges up-front sales tax on the full amount of the vehicle. What is your capitalized cost (i.e., what is your discount from MSRP?)? Replies to this message: rider88 (Oct 19, 2006 9:52 pm) martinf (Oct 20, 2006 9:59 pm)
#322 of 740 Re: 2007 R500 advice needed [martinf] by rider88 Oct 19, 2006 (9:52 pm)
Replying to: martinf (Oct 19, 2006 9:11 pm) martinf - thanks for the reply.   I tried looking for 2006 with rear airbags, but was not successful, hence we are looking at 2007s.   The 3900 out the door cost includes all the state sales tax to be paid up-front.   MSRP is 66840 (but calculating from MB website, it seems like the MSRP is actually 68K, cap cost is 61061. I think invoice is 60975 (according to Edmunds).   What do you think of this for an 2007? Replies to this message: martinf (Oct 20, 2006 9:59 pm)
#323 of 740 Re: 2007 R500 advice needed [rider88] by martinf Oct 20, 2006 (9:59 pm)
Replying to: rider88 (Oct 19, 2006 9:52 pm) It looks like you are getting about $5800 off MSRP. At this point in the model run, I think that is about as good as you are going to find. Apparently, MB has a 5.5% "Dealer Holdback" on these vehicles, giving the dealers only about another $3600 to play with beyond invoice. If you are not in a big hurry, you might want to wait for Mercedes Winter Sales Event which I think will kick in sometime in November. It may also give MB a chance to see if they need to start giving factory to dealer incentive cash. One very positive note about the 2007 R is that money factor is a ridiculously low .00165 (3.96% in English). Versus the .00400 money factor on the 2006's, that low money factor will save you about $6000.   I would still try to check other dealerships for 2006's with rear airbags. If you have small children, however, most manufacturers recommend disabling the rear airbags. I have them on a 2000 BMW 528it and they have always been disabled due to my two little boys' ages. Where are you located?
#324 of 740 Is this a decent deal on R 350 by hockey81 Oct 21, 2006 (11:34 am)
2006 R 350, list 58K, discount $10,100 (includes dealer/factory rebate of $7K). Money factor 0.0021 for single payment for 27 month lease of $16.5K including 6% sales tax? Deal also comes with free servicing for 2 years Replies to this message: martinf (Oct 21, 2006 10:29 pm) martinf (Oct 21, 2006 10:32 pm)
#325 of 740 Re: Is this a decent deal on R 350 [hockey81] by martinf Oct 21, 2006 (10:29 pm)
Replying to: hockey81 (Oct 21, 2006 11:34 am) You can get a similar vehicle in Southern California for about $13,000 for the 27 month, single payment lease (including 7.75% sales tax). Look at other postings on this board for dealers (e.g., Simonson (Santa Monica), Fletcher Jones (Newport Beach), Caliber Motors (Anaheim), Beshoff Motors (Northern Cal.) irishrogue1 just got his from Simonson and found the deal and the experience exemplary.   At only 10,100 off, with factory to dealer cash of $7000, they are slightly above invoice. Most So. Cal dealers are dipping $1500 to $2000 into dealer holdback - at least. Big picture, your deal is probably $3000 to $4000 higher than the best deals in So. Cal. Replies to this message: martinf (Oct 21, 2006 10:32 pm)
#326 of 740 Re: Is this a decent deal on R 350 [martinf] by martinf Oct 21, 2006 (10:32 pm)
Replying to: martinf (Oct 21, 2006 10:29 pm) With the extra $3000 factory to dealer cash on the R500 (bringing the total factory to dealer cash to a whopping $10,000), you may want to reconsider the vehicle. Many posts on this and other R class forums by R350 owners have expressed lament over not at least "test-driving and test-pricing" the R500. Be aware that the money factor will be higher on the R500 (currently .00290 on the single pay).
#327 of 740 Re: Is this a decent deal on R 350? by hockey81 Oct 22, 2006 (6:26 am)
One problem with the West coast dealers, I live in New England. Has anyone found that type of discounting in the Northeast? I looked at the R 500 it had a better deal as far as the discount but the difference in the money factor was an offset. Also the dealer selection for the R500 was limited to black which my kids said would only be good it I were a funeral director (I agree).
#328 of 740 Signed my lease for the R500 by fabeneag Oct 22, 2006 (9:32 am)
Thanks to everyone in the forum for their feedback. It has been very helpful to me!!   In the Boston area and signed lease for '06 Iridium Silver w ash R500. Has premium package, design II wheels and center row console. MSRP was around $62,000. Cap cost for the lease was around $48,000. 15K miles. 39 months at $730 incl. tax. Up front totals $1,095.   Feels like I got a good deal given what's been on this board. Selection in Northeast isn't great. Wanted Sirius but couldn't fine one that I liked.   Thanks again!
#329 of 740 One Pay leases by jimscays Oct 23, 2006 (1:19 pm)
I have a question. If you do a one pay lease, are you paying the difference between the selling price and the residual price at the end of the lease? For example, if the MSRP was $52,000 and the sales price ended up being $40,000 and you were doing a 36 month lease, the residual being 56% of $52,000 which is $29,120, on a one pay lease would you then be paying $10,880 plus tax, tag, and bank doc fees? Or is there still a finance charge associated with the lease even tho you are paying all of the payments upfront? Thanks your information would really help and ia much appreciated. I am debating between the R class and a loaded FX 35, both have similair sales price numbers. Replies to this message: martinf (Oct 23, 2006 10:44 pm) jimscays (Oct 24, 2006 6:35 am)

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