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$499....that's great!! wait....too good to be true? by raj904
Mar 14, 2006 (7:38 pm)
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I am considering leasing a 2006 R350 with
premium package
lighting package
comfort package
airmatic suspension
trim package
The MSRP is 63735, and the dealer says that if I put down the extra $9000, then I too can have the lease for $499 for 39 months. Is this too good to be true? and does anybody know what the money factor is(if they are giving a discount, I am willing to pay for the lease up front).
 
Any help will be greatly appreciated,
Raj904
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Re: $499....that's great!! wait....too good to be true? [raj904] by akin
Mar 17, 2006 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: raj904 (Mar 14, 2006 7:38 pm)

Do you really think that is a good deal? Let me understand this:
 
$499/month X 39 months = $19,500
plus you need to put down $9,000
 
For a grand total cost of $28,500 or monthly cost of $730.
 
And that cost does not include tax or anything. Do you really think that is a good deal?
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Re: $499....that's great!! wait....too good to be true? [akin] by raj904
Mar 18, 2006 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: akin (Mar 17, 2006 3:12 pm)

It does sound good, because the residual value is about 27K-28K. Thus, If I leased it and then exercised the buy option, I would save almost 8K off the MSRP, which I can tell I cannot get from the dealer. I have one more question. In a deal like this, what is negotiable? the payment per month is fixed, but is anything else? do the dealers negotiate on the resale value?
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Re: $499....that's great!! wait....too good to be true? [raj904] by pinerivergal
Mar 20, 2006 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: raj904 (Mar 18, 2006 5:08 am)

From much perusing of these boards, I've also gathered that these cars are not selling well. One local dealer was willing to go with the $499 month with $3995 down as on MB website. By the time I added in 12K/yr instead of 10K, it was up to $517/mo payment. OK not bad... But the car didn't have anything except Parktronic on it. White with beige. I already have a beige interior and was hoping for black. Only other car was 65K Saks edition... too much. The other local dealer didn't even respond to my emails (this was the one I test drove with).
 
I live in FL. Co-workers bought 2 MB from dealer in Ohio (one's a relative) getting great deals. A E350 sport and a CLK 350. He got me my R350. This is my deal:
$3000 down, includes 1st month payment. MSRP of 56305, getting the car for 8500 less, basically the $5000 dealer incentive discounted from invoice price of 52719. I got everything I wanted: Parktronic & Premium, Pewter with black. Bonus of heated seats, not needed much in FL, but I still use them in my C240 on winter days. Got the paperwork by Fed EX and payments were 518, including tax. Oh yeah, that includes 12K/year for 39 months. I'm very happy.
 
So, go for the 499 but don't put down the 8000.
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Re: money factor [jccssc888] by Car_man HOST
Mar 21, 2006 (2:40 am)
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Replying to: jccssc888 (Feb 22, 2006 9:29 am)

HI jccssc888. Dealers are having a hard time giving the R-Class away right now. This works to your advantage as a consumer because Mercedes-Benz has been forced to provide quite a bit of support on it and dealers aren't making much on them. If you were to lease a 2006 R350 through Mercedes-Benz Credit right now for 39 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00285 and 60%, respectively. The best part about the incentives that are currently available on this model is that Mercedes has $5,000 dealer cash on it. Make sure to use this month to reduce the capitalized cost of the model that you are interested in.
 
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Re: Mercedes-Benz R-Class: Lease Questions [lprice] by Car_man HOST
Mar 21, 2006 (2:45 am)
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Replying to: lprice (Mar 11, 2006 7:34 am)

Hey L Price. The most important thing to keep in mind when negotiating a lease on the R350 is that Mercedes-Benz is currently providing $5,000 dealer cash on it. Make sure to take this cash into account when negotiating the capitalized cost of the model that you want. As far as its lease program goes, if you were to lease one through Mercedes-Benz Credit right now for 24 months with 12,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00310 and 72%, respectively.
 
The impression that you got about this being a slow selling model is absolutely correct. You can use this to your advantage by negotiating a low selling price. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. I suspect that you should be able to get an R350 right now for a little over invoice minus the $5,000 dealer cash.
 
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Re: $499....that's great!! wait....too good to be true? [raj904] by Car_man HOST
Mar 21, 2006 (2:48 am)
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Replying to: raj904 (Mar 14, 2006 7:38 pm)

Hi Raj904. It definitely is not a good idea to make a $9,000 down payment on the lease that you are considering. I always advise consumers against making any sort of down payment when leasing. I do so for two main reasons. The first is if your vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen during your lease, your down payment essentially disappears. The second main reason is that down payments on leased vehicles do nothing to reduce their lease-end purchase prices. So your lease-end purchase option price for your R350 would be exactly the same, regardless of whether you had put $9,000 down, or had made absolutely no down payment at all.
 
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Re: money factor [Car_man] by chucky380
Mar 21, 2006 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Mar 21, 2006 2:40 am)

Hi,
 
thoughts on the R-class 500. dealer would give 4% back on top of 5000 rebate from MB. Looking at 39 months with 15,000. what should i use for money factor and residual factor. Initially they offered me $608 a month.. thoughts on 1.9% financing? Thanks
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My final deal by aau007
Mar 21, 2006 (11:42 pm)
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I read the postings here for a while before getting my r350 lease today. I learned so much information here and guess I will share mine with others for reference:
 
R350 with MSRP of 58415
36 months, 12k miles per year
$659 including tax per month (8.25% sales tax)
1st month only as total drive off
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Re: My final deal [aau007] by zaheer
Mar 22, 2006 (8:59 pm)
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Replying to: aau007 (Mar 21, 2006 11:42 pm)

I have been looking at the R350 as well since the $499 deal came out. I assume that you did not have a trade-in and included the DMV fees in the Gross Cap Cost. I don't have all the information so I am making some assumptions, but by plugging in your numbers in the Lease Formula, I came up with the following:
 
Assumed Gross Cap Cost (including DMV) - $52,065
Your Residual Should Be - $36,217.30 (62% for 12k miles per year)
Money Factor - 0.00191
Depreciation - $440.21 per month
Rental Charge - $168.62
Total - $608.83
With Tax - $659.06
 
If your total drive-off was $659, this is quite a good deal since the dealer does not seem to have bumped up the Money Factor from the Ad car. Most of the dealers that I have spoken to in the Bay Area want a Money Factor of .00285 which adds an additional $75 per month to the payment. This violates the terms of the Ad. The Ad car (on www.mbusa.com)has a Residual of 63% (10k miles per year) and a Money Factor of 0.00191. Note that this is a National Ad and does not state that a limited number of cars are available at this price. Theoretically, Mercedes must honor the terms of the Ad even if the car has a few more options. Be careful with dealers that bump up the Money Factor on cars that have more options. I have not been able to find a car with just the Premium Package. I'd like to hear what others experiences are regarding this deal.
 
                      Zaheer

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