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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 09, 2006 6:24 am)
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Replying to: mx5rules (Jan 09, 2006 9:40 am) A few comments: First, you are comparing the performance of your supercharged Miata to a base Solstice. The results might be a bit different if/when you run across a Solstice GXP supercharged to around 260hp. Second, a large portion of Solstice owners (and Miata owners for that matter) only want a nice looking, reasonably performing and inexpensive convertible. The track-worthiness of past Miatas was simply a bonus for them, and will be simply a bonus for that type of Solstice owners. I'm sure you'll have fun trouncing non-boosted Solstii on the track, but a large % of those you meet on the street won't care one little bit. All they want is the wind in their hair in a little convertible that looks really really cool. And there's nothing wrong with that. Pontiac could have cheaped out and concentrated purely on price and style (that seems to have been their modus operandi in the past); but the fact that the Solstice actually performs and handles very very closely to the Miata says alot (to me anyway) about Pontiac. You should give them their due. Mazda has had better than a decade to perfect the Miata; Pontiac seems to have built a very solid effort right out of the box. Given the fact that past Pontiac efforts have gotten substantially BETTER a few years after their introduction, makes me think Mazda should be worried about the state of the Solstice in '08 or '09.....
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Replying to: carlisimo (Jan 09, 2006 10:03 am) Interior while attractive was very flimsy. |
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Replying to: mx5rules (Jan 09, 2006 9:40 am) More power on a less skittish platform. |
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Replying to: rorr (Jan 09, 2006 10:11 am) Are you sure Pontiac will still be around in 2008 or 2009? GM is going to eliminate another division or two before their financial ruins improve.
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Replying to: audia8q (Jan 09, 2006 10:41 am) The point remains; historically, GM has continually improved their models in incremental steps as the model gets further into it's life cycle. As good as the Solstice is today (and IMO the Miata is still a scooch better), I wouldn't bet against GM improving the Solstice over the course of the next 3-5 years. |
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Replying to: rorr (Jan 09, 2006 10:11 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Jan 09, 2006 11:19 am) According to Consumer Reports just about every mfg improves with time...even Honda doesnt look so great when you compare first year vs. third year....so what's the big deal about GM doing the samething everyone else does?? If they didn't get it right after a few years they would have been long gone instead of on life support. GM has a long shakey road ahead and GM buyers should take that into consideration.
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Replying to: audia8q (Jan 09, 2006 11:45 am) |
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Replying to: audia8q (Jan 09, 2006 11:45 am) Case in point: the 2nd generation Miata (introduced as a '99 model?) arrived with a 1.8l four making 140hp and a curb weight of about 2300 lbs. The last year of the 2nd generation it was the same 1.8l four making 142hp with a curb weight up to about 2450 lbs. The domestics are infamous (GM particularly) for continually tweeking the performance levels of their sporty cars in an attempt to keep the car 'fresh' and attacting new buyers. I'm actually surprised they will be releasing the GXP version as early as they are planning. Typically, they wait for the bloom to be off of a model before they start releasing higher performance editions to increase the buzz again. Does GM as a company have a long shakey road ahead? I don't doubt that at all; but if they can continue to develop cars as good as the Solstice (which is NOT without it's own issues) the road will be somewhat easier.
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