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Pontiac Solstice vs 2006 Mazda MX-5 Miata

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What is this discussion about? Pontiac Solstice, Mazda MX-5 Miata, Coupe, Convertible


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Re: on star required [rorr] by pao
Jan 09, 2006 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Jan 09, 2006 6:05 am)

well true..the contribution to this comparison thread.....wasnt quite awe inspiring....as was noted above......
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Re: on star required [pao] by mx5rules
Jan 09, 2006 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: pao (Jan 09, 2006 8:37 am)

I was totally surprised to actually see a red solstice "for sale" and proudly displayed at my local Pontiac dealer last month....especially since that day the newspaper had an article proclaiming that the allotment was "sold out". I stopped to take a first hand look and the salesman promptly told me that it was available for (now get this) an ADDITIONAL $7,000 on top of sticker price. I don't believe in paying sticker let alone a premium just to have the newest shiny toy on the block.............especially on a car that is bound to depreciate as much as the GM product. I saw the Sky at the San Diego auto show. It is an extremely good looking car....but I don't believe in buying on looks alone. I have a 99 Miata anniversary edition that is supercharged and have already had the immense pleasure of trouncing Boxsters and S2000's both in acceleration and cornering/handling. I personally can't wait to meet my first Solstice on the street or track to give the owner their walking papers.
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Re: on star required [mx5rules] by rorr
Jan 09, 2006 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: mx5rules (Jan 09, 2006 9:40 am)

"... that it was available for (now get this) an ADDITIONAL $7,000 on top of sticker price."
 
The dealer's 'Asking price' and sales price are completely different things. I'm quite certain he would have let it go for only $6,000 on top of sticker......
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Re: on star required [mx5rules] by pao
Jan 09, 2006 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: mx5rules (Jan 09, 2006 9:40 am)

unfortunately there are a few independent dealers..that are taking the free market to a new level with the prem market up.....and giving GM and Pontiac a bad name in the process...not considering customer loyalty.....sounds like you enjoy your Miata..and that is all good....I too am enjoying our solstice.....Im not a racer or an autocross kinda of guy...so I will gladly let you trounce me.......and I will still love my Sol....have a great day....and be safe
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Re: on star required [logic1] by carlisimo
Jan 09, 2006 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 09, 2006 6:24 am)

logic1, may I ask what went wrong on your NB? I'm looking into getting one.
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Re: on star required [mx5rules] by rorr
Jan 09, 2006 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: mx5rules (Jan 09, 2006 9:40 am)

"I personally can't wait to meet my first Solstice on the street or track to give the owner their walking papers."
 
A few comments:
 
First, you are comparing the performance of your supercharged Miata to a base Solstice. The results might be a bit different if/when you run across a Solstice GXP supercharged to around 260hp.
 
Second, a large portion of Solstice owners (and Miata owners for that matter) only want a nice looking, reasonably performing and inexpensive convertible. The track-worthiness of past Miatas was simply a bonus for them, and will be simply a bonus for that type of Solstice owners. I'm sure you'll have fun trouncing non-boosted Solstii on the track, but a large % of those you meet on the street won't care one little bit. All they want is the wind in their hair in a little convertible that looks really really cool.
 
And there's nothing wrong with that. Pontiac could have cheaped out and concentrated purely on price and style (that seems to have been their modus operandi in the past); but the fact that the Solstice actually performs and handles very very closely to the Miata says alot (to me anyway) about Pontiac.
 
You should give them their due. Mazda has had better than a decade to perfect the Miata; Pontiac seems to have built a very solid effort right out of the box. Given the fact that past Pontiac efforts have gotten substantially BETTER a few years after their introduction, makes me think Mazda should be worried about the state of the Solstice in '08 or '09.....
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Re: on star required [carlisimo] by logic1
Jan 09, 2006 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: carlisimo (Jan 09, 2006 10:03 am)

Computer and other electric problems.
 
Interior while attractive was very flimsy.
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Re: on star required [mx5rules] by logic1
Jan 09, 2006 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: mx5rules (Jan 09, 2006 9:40 am)

Better hope you do not meet some with a Mallett Solstice - or even the forthcoming Turbo, for that matter.
 
More power on a less skittish platform.
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Re: on star required [rorr] by audia8q
Jan 09, 2006 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Jan 09, 2006 10:11 am)

Given the fact that past Pontiac efforts have gotten substantially BETTER a few years after their introduction, makes me think Mazda should be worried about the state of the Solstice in '08 or '09
 
Are you sure Pontiac will still be around in 2008 or 2009? GM is going to eliminate another division or two before their financial ruins improve.
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Re: on star required [audia8q] by rorr
Jan 09, 2006 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: audia8q (Jan 09, 2006 10:41 am)

Nope, not sure that Pontiac will still be around. However, given the up front investment that GM has made on the hydroforming process (and the fact that Saturn will be building the Sky), I think it likely that the Solstice would survive in some form with another division in the event Pontiac gets the ax.
 
The point remains; historically, GM has continually improved their models in incremental steps as the model gets further into it's life cycle. As good as the Solstice is today (and IMO the Miata is still a scooch better), I wouldn't bet against GM improving the Solstice over the course of the next 3-5 years.

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