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#46 of 376 Re: Broken Record... [habitat1] by lbthedawg Oct 19, 2005 (2:03 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 19, 2005 7:03 am) "Since you are so good at figuring out, and repeating, and repeating, and repeating what is dragging Porsche down to the brink of bankruptcy, perhaps you have some ideas to pull GM out of it?? Might require you to give up your UAW membership, but that card is melting anyway.    I assume by your interjection that you agree with lbthedawg and competing in the sports car / roadster category it's all about image, not substance? Forget my suggestion then, Even Heaven can't help GM."   Well Ford sure as heck bailed out Mazda to the tune of ignoring their home market. And better watch out because Porsche is throwing cash at VW which may turn into a huge money pit.   Never say never about the auto industry because there seems to be another Toyota based recall today on the heels of a 1.2 million recall yesterday.   Look the end is if a few disappointed Mazda cronies are looking for a way to trash the Solstice because their new model is such a dud, go do the trashing over on the Mazda thread.   You really don't think you are going to get free shots every where.   Not everybody on the Edmunds site is as biased as the "experts" that write for them. Replies to this message: lhess (Oct 20, 2005 6:50 am) lbthedawg (Oct 21, 2005 10:12 am) rorr (Oct 21, 2005 11:52 am) midwesttrader (Oct 21, 2005 12:46 pm) govnah (Oct 21, 2005 12:53 pm) habitat1 (Oct 21, 2005 2:19 pm)
#47 of 376 This topic by claires HOST Oct 19, 2005 (2:17 pm)
is for comparing/contrasting the features of the Solstice and MX-5, and everyone is welcome to express his/her opinion here. If you don't agree with someone's opinion, please refute it respectfully. If you don't like what someone else has to say, read on. Thanks.
#48 of 376 Re: Broken Record... [lbthedawg] by lhess Oct 20, 2005 (6:50 am)
Replying to: lbthedawg (Oct 19, 2005 2:03 pm) I think you're missing one point here, the Miata has always sold, and sold well, on the basis that it is a simple little roadster. I agree that the looks of the Solstice are much nicer, but you can't discount the new MX-5 as a "DUD" just yet. I still think the deciding factor on the car will be the reliability factor of both - and that's months down the road. Solstice has no numbers to back it up, but I think the Miata has a pretty good reputation in that dept! Replies to this message: lbthedawg (Oct 21, 2005 10:12 am) rorr (Oct 21, 2005 11:52 am) midwesttrader (Oct 21, 2005 12:46 pm) govnah (Oct 21, 2005 12:53 pm) habitat1 (Oct 21, 2005 2:19 pm)
#49 of 376 The undeniable truth by lbthedawg Oct 21, 2005 (10:12 am)
Replying to: lhess (Oct 20, 2005 6:50 am) Bottom line, absolutely no doubt about it, put the Solstice next a Miata (even though it wants to hide it's name) in a parking lot and the Solstice crushes, destroys, annihilates the Mazda.   There simply is no argument about it.   There is a huge gap here, I dare say you ask a hundred people which car has the edge in looks and well over 90% will give it to the Pontiac.   And though some want to avoid it, this is significant because no matter how it is avoided, Pontiac has caught and passed so much of the competition the defenders of the competition have to resort to cliches and fairy tales.   Yes a first year car is the leader in class over a car with a 15 year head start.   And what slight weaknesses real, imagined or fabricated there are, they will be soon resolved with strengths in other areas.   And what is more significant, the Saturn Sky is just around the corner. Replies to this message: rorr (Oct 21, 2005 11:52 am) midwesttrader (Oct 21, 2005 12:46 pm) govnah (Oct 21, 2005 12:53 pm) habitat1 (Oct 21, 2005 2:19 pm)
#50 of 376 Re: The undeniable truth [lbthedawg] by rorr Oct 21, 2005 (11:52 am)
Replying to: lbthedawg (Oct 21, 2005 10:12 am) Interesting.   Style points appears to be everything when it comes to convertible sportscars (Pontiac Solstice vs. Mazda Miata).......but style doesn't mean anything with 2-door muscle coupes (Pontiac GTO vs. Ford Mustang).   You Pontiac guys need to get it together on just when style is everything and when style is nothing......
#51 of 376 Re: The undeniable truth [lbthedawg] by midwesttrader Oct 21, 2005 (12:46 pm)
Replying to: lbthedawg (Oct 21, 2005 10:12 am) "Pontiac has caught and passed so much of the competition the defenders of the competition have to resort to cliches and fairy tales."   Is this the same Pontiac whose sales have fallen about 10% compared with last year?
#52 of 376 Re: The undeniable truth [lbthedawg] by govnah Oct 21, 2005 (12:53 pm)
Replying to: lbthedawg (Oct 21, 2005 10:12 am) let's hear how estatic you are when you are paying for a repair on your Pontiac at 41,000 miles because your warranty has expired. At 41,000 miles, I will not only NOT need any repairs because of PROVEN RELIABILITY, but I will be COVERED under my excellent Mazda 4 year/50,000 mile warranty. I hope you have deep pockets dawg.
#53 of 376 Re: The undeniable truth [lbthedawg] by habitat1 Oct 21, 2005 (2:19 pm)
Replying to: lbthedawg (Oct 21, 2005 10:12 am) "Bottom line, absolutely no doubt about it, put the Solstice next a Miata (even though it wants to hide it's name) in a parking lot and the Solstice crushes, destroys, annihilates the Mazda.    There simply is no argument about it."   Boy, you just don't get it, do you? Regardless of the merits of the Solstice, especially the subjective "image" factor that you are stuck on, there are some people - make that several tens of millions of people - who wouldn't buy a Pontiac if their only alternative were a bicycle.   Look, I actually hope that the Solstice is a success. But I'm not out there buying GM stock just yet. GM is the worst performinag major car company in the world, and Pontiac is it's worst division. That's due in large part to their having perfected poor build quality, poor reliability and poor resale values over several decades. If you want to claim there is no argument about something, start with that.
#54 of 376 Even if the Solstice is perfectly reliable like the Miata by creakid1 Oct 21, 2005 (9:49 pm)
its lack of true driving excitement (read quality of driver's feel & control) just won't cut it. After all, neither of them is a drag racer, so sideway fun is what counts! & again, none of them is a Formula One, so it's for drifting at relatively safe low speeds & not the max lateral g-force.
#55 of 376 habitat by audia8q Oct 22, 2005 (6:08 am)
GM is the worst performinag major car company in the world, and Pontiac is it's worst division.   I think you may be correct.... We may never get the chance to compare the long term reliability and sales record of the Solstice...Unless something really spectacular happens, Pontiac is gone within 5 years.

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