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Pontiac Solstice vs 2006 Mazda MX-5 Miata

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What is this discussion about? Pontiac Solstice, Mazda MX-5 Miata, Coupe, Convertible


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Re: Actually only the Miata has good steering feel [govnah] by exalteddragon1
Oct 17, 2005 (8:37 pm)
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Replying to: govnah (Oct 17, 2005 3:26 pm)

I agree with you that the sostice is missing the xenon lights and the rag top bieng manually operated is a HUGE disadvantage for pontiac.
 
Remember that GM has a $1500 disadvantage per car because of healthcare and medical bills. Thank the UAW for that, unfortunatley.
 
I think another problem for the pontiac is that it only has one exhaust pipe. From a style standpoint it does not look as sporty as dual exhaust does. The should fix this one ASAP.
 
Still, the Pontiac does have a few advantages. The Ecotec 2.4 is a better motor with more low end power than the Mazda, and the interrior (although maybe a little bit harder) is cleaner than the Mazda.
 
The styling is better too, although i think the Saturn sky is even better. That car better have at least HID's or something.
 
Also dont forget the pontiac does beat out the mazda in price at just about every trim level.
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Re: Actually only the Miata has good steering feel [govnah] by pao
Oct 18, 2005 (3:28 am)
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Replying to: govnah (Oct 17, 2005 3:26 pm)

Having done research as well and driven both.....I would say this to the comments
 
- yes on the warranty....Solstice yet to be proven for reliability
- side airbags...both are small cars...which will greatly increase injury in an accident side bags help....but in a major collision....ugh
- roll bar.....the odds of rolling the car are minimum if you drive normally
- Trunk....yes on Miata.....but useable space on the solstice with some innovation
- LSD is an option on the Solstice..dont care for Xenon
- lower the top...the new MX-5 has a one latch release..but I couldnt get the top to loock in place reaching around...I had to get out of the car to do it while pushing down on the top..even the salesman couldnt do it from inside the car....same for the solstice
- keyless entry/start..dont need for a manual shift
- proven history..no doubt
- get now...yes....are they moving no....sitting on the dealers lots here in No Va
- wait for the solstice...yes....permium..only if you dont do you search and find a dealer to get it at MSRP...
 
as far as engineering...the solstice is probably one of the most engineered cars by GM in many years with the Kappa body and other efforts that went into this car from concept to production in two plus years...but only time will tell..
 
having driven both...Im not the performance car nut..I admit..but felt more comfortable, more hip and shoulder room in the solstice...leg room comparable to in both...Solstice styling wins....overall I think its a personal choice
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cars by xkss
Oct 18, 2005 (9:24 pm)
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Replying to: creakid1 (Oct 14, 2005 1:44 pm)

That aol link is the same thing as the edmunds review....
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Re: Has anyone in here drove a Solstice yet? [paul38] by gemini5362
Oct 18, 2005 (11:28 pm)
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Replying to: paul38 (Sep 30, 2005 4:51 am)

I have not driven one yet. Every time I have gone to a pontiac dealership they say it will be out in a few months. Now the dealer has told me that they will have one in november. I think Pontiac has missed the boat with the slow rollout. They had a lot of free advertising courtesy of The Apprentice and they did not capitalize on that. They waited a year to have the car available and even that availability is limited. I have owned a miata for 4 years. For the price it is one of the best sports cars in the market in my opinion. I have read some of the threads about the differences between it and the solstice. There was some mention about the lack of trunk space in the solstice but one writer felt that trunk space was not that important. I puchased a 2005 Boxster after I sold the Miata. One of the selling points for the Boxster was the large amount of storage space available for a sports car. We drive the Boxster on weekend trips and we find we have plenty of space for overnight bags and for laptops. For those people who are going to say something about taking a laptop on a weekend trip at least one laptop is a necessity due to job considerations. I am looking forward to seeing A solstice when they finally make it to a dealership near me.
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cars by xkss
Oct 18, 2005 (11:29 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 16, 2005 3:33 pm)

I must be the exception to your rule. In 2001, I bought a Honda S2000 and last month I bought a 911 Cab S. Both purchases were after a lot of research, test drives and analysis.
 
lbthedawg was comparing the 2006 Pontiac Solstice with the new Mazda MX-5, not a new 911 S which can suffer from the RMS (rear main seal) leaks dating back to the first Boxsters and 996s.
 
I just recently showed pictures and information of the new Pontiac Solstice to a friend and they were suprised to hear that it was a Pontiac and not some fancier car make. The Solstice does have a more upmarket look that the new MX-5. I'd like to see the opinion of a race car driver concerning the new MX-5 vs. Solstice rather than what edmunds has to say.
 
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Re: Has anyone in here drove a Solstice yet? [gemini5362] by pao
Oct 19, 2005 (3:12 am)
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Replying to: gemini5362 (Oct 18, 2005 11:28 pm)

I dont think pontiac has missed the boat......their promise was to get the first 1000 out by the end of Oct....first four month allocation customer orders have been hitting the dealers for about two weeks now.....I think GM totally under estimated the appeal of this car.....most people still dont know it even exists...so when you see it more and more on the road...I think the appeal will grow...witha bout 7000 scheduled to be build this calendar year.....you arent going to see many around just yet.....and you probably certainly will not see one in a dealers lot to drive for quite a while..unless the dealer wants a true premium on the car which I will not pay.....I have driven both...and have had my solstice on orders since May....should see it around Xmas....has it finally has been picked up for production....with 13K plus orders and the 06 model virtually sold out...I dont think GM is complaning...but again....its small numbers..the roadster is a niche market for sure.......the G6 has sold over 300K units this year...
 
again not a car nut....but having driven both .....I preferred the Solstice...only time will tell how it holds up in long term.....against the MX-5
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Broken Record... by habitat1
Oct 19, 2005 (7:03 am)
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"...not a new 911 S which can suffer from the RMS (rear main seal) leaks dating back to the first Boxsters and 996s."
 
Since you are so good at figuring out, and repeating, and repeating, and repeating what is dragging Porsche down to the brink of bankruptcy, perhaps you have some ideas to pull GM out of it?? Might require you to give up your UAW membership, but that card is melting anyway.
 
I assume by your interjection that you agree with lbthedawg and competing in the sports car / roadster category it's all about image, not substance? Forget my suggestion then, Even Heaven can't help GM.
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Re: Has anyone in here drove a Solstice yet? [pao] by midwesttrader
Oct 19, 2005 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: pao (Oct 19, 2005 3:12 am)

According to GM's own website they have sold 88,587 G6 cars through September not 300,000. That compares with 120,213 Grand Ams sold for the same time period during 2004.
 
I think they have missed a big sales opportunity with the Solstice. Because of production issues the car was not available for the summer. By the time winter is over the buzz on the car will be long gone and I bet quite a few of those people waiting will have gotten their deposit back and moved on.
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Re: Has anyone in here drove a Solstice yet? [midwesttrader] by pao
Oct 19, 2005 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: midwesttrader (Oct 19, 2005 7:17 am)

sorry..my mistake...was looking at another source....wondering if that number was combined sales.....anyway....will have to see...I think the marketing scheme for the solstice was lacking....not many know about it still..but all in the early order program knew the car wasnt going to hit till early sept/oct....now that they are flowing to customers...believe most will be in for the long haul.....I was doubtful until I actually saw and rode in one.....order in May..will perhaps see it in Dec....
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Re: Actually only the Miata has good steering feel [habitat1] by lbthedawg
Oct 19, 2005 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 16, 2005 3:33 pm)

Two cheap sports cars.
 
One very well styled and one with no styling,
 
Take a guess which is which?
 
If somebody wants to go fast, they buy neither and go get a Mustang or used Vette.
 
Forget the rest of the noise, this thread is just some way for the Miata bunch to try and make up some junk for getting so badly crushed in the image department.

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