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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 11, 2006 10:01 am) we were aware of the sol's "shortcomings" but that did not sway our decision after we compared the two...7 months and 8300 miles into our ownership....we are still very happy with the solstice.. and it is our fair weather car.....backed by an 04 Chevy Malibu Maxx...which has been trashed at times with reviews..but ours as 67K on it two years old..and not one problem....along with our 96 Ford Bronco..with 167k and still going strong.... any car will and can offer up it share of problems, regardless of make, model or price...and the forum here and elsewhere provides a voice for those that have those problems and probably are in the minority....the silent majority are happy with their cars and enjoy them for what they are....cars...... cheers all
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Replying to: pao (May 12, 2006 3:51 am) |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 11, 2006 10:20 am) I think initial quality has to do with how well a car looks like it's been put together, and purposely excludes durability. Gaps, loose items, maybe unergonomic design features. Stuff that sucks right off the production line - so I'd say it measures design more than what quality of materials was used. The Mazda3 had a lot of complaints on initial quality because the A/C was weaker than some people wanted. Cupholders have hurt German cars' scores. |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 11, 2006 9:53 am) Well, GM ought to sue them then. Per Pao's link, while some GM brands do well, others, including GM's bread and butter Chevrolet, are below industry average. On the other hand, many major GM competitors are above average. Mazda lost in a fair fight, IMO. In deference to the Miata, Mazda's probably gets hit real hard for the rotary engine. The problems I had with my '03 Miata were electonics and quality of the interior components. Everything looked nice enough, but the gear shift thread stripped (first time I ever had that happen) and the center console and glove box latch snapped. The 6th speed at least in the NB Miata was a superfluous waste of money. The older engine did not need the extra gear. Better off saving the money on the 6 speed to spend after market. I've not driven the NC MX-5. Maybe the new engine better matches the 6 speed.
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Replying to: logic1 (May 12, 2006 12:49 pm) Per Pao's link, while some GM brands do well, others, including GM's bread and butter Chevrolet, are below industry average. All I meant was they throw a little money to J.D. and have some of their vehicles rate well....once again, I have no proof! LOL, just my thought. 
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I still insist that the Mazda is a chicks car!! Always has been, always will be. Great car, great handling, never enough power BUT still a chicks car. Mazda dropped the ball on this car 16 years ago with me when they allowed dealers to gouge new customers with BUMP stickers. Now, GM dealers (Saturn included) are appearing to do the same. Go ahead, chase me away, I'll be looking at the Japanese cars even more GM. Hasta Nunca.
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Replying to: glennglenn (May 17, 2006 6:52 pm) During those 16 years the Miata become the best selling roadster in history. Doesn't exactly sound like they missed your sale. During the next 16 years the Solstice will not top the Miata's numbers. They are instock and getting discounted already in many markets...so GM might really miss your sale. Don't sweat the bump stickers. |
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Replying to: audia8q (May 18, 2006 7:14 am) In your dreams. GM is even planning to increase production to meet demand.
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Replying to: logic1 (May 18, 2006 8:06 am) |
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Replying to: glennglenn (May 17, 2006 6:52 pm) Perhaps you don't know what MSRP stands for? Manufacturer's SUGGESTED Retail Price. Why is the price 'gouging'? Was anyone holding a gun to your head MAKING you buy a Miata 16 years ago? I don't think Pontiac dealers are kidnapping folks off the street and threatening to break their legs if they don't buy a Solstice at MSRP+ADM. If you don't like the price, don't buy the car. It's that simple. If someone has a large amount of green in their pocket and simply HAS to have a Solstice (or Sky or Mustang GT convertible or whatever the latest 'hot' car is), why shouldn't the Dealer charge MSRP+ADM for the car? Which is better: having a dealer WITH some inventory actually available but at MSRP+ADM, OR having a dealer who ONLY sells at MSRP (or below) but has no inventory? And a 6 month waiting list of folks wanting whatever the hot car is? There's no right or wrong answer to that question. You are certainly within your right to ONLY buy from dealers selling at MSRP or below......and get on a waiting list. Doesn't anyone know the basic BASIC rules of supply and demand anymore?
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