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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 01, 2006 10:37 am) You, and the two other posters (how two equates to many in your book is an interesting topic for another thread) are dead wrong on my knowledge. In these threads I have been talking about one thing: amateur tuning in North America. In these threads, I have certainly acknowledges that the Miata has a popular North American amateur fan base built over the past 15 years. My point was and remains, that Mazda does not have other cars anywhere near as popular as the Miata. In addition, I forwarded my theory that there is no reason the Solstice and its fellow Kappa cars will not enjoy a similar following over the years. Rather than debate the point, you have brought up all sorts of things, including worldwide Mazda sales, Mazda professional racing, GM front wheel drive cars that I have not offered any opinion about. Rather than point out the diversionary tactics you insist on using, your two friends have piled on against me - all apparently being fare in Miatas and wars. You have no rational basis to your claim I know nothing about Mazda racing history. I have not discussed it with you. Unless you can demonstrate that you know me in person or have been secretly spying on me, you have yet again gone off on a plank. |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 01, 2006 10:55 am) In Car and Driver's review of the MX-5, they say expect a MazdaSpeed version soon. With the GXP already announced, I do not see how Mazda can afford not to come out with one.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 01, 2006 10:55 am) Hey, how about that, you understand the concept of expressing ones belief! Well, by golly, you have expressed your belief about future Kappa sales. Is that also a problem? Or are you allowed opinions and I am not? |
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Replying to: logic1 (Feb 01, 2006 10:58 am) That is an author with speculation trying to sell magazines. As I said before, NO such thing has been announced from Mazda. The earliest we might see one is 2010. Unless, they build 2 Mazdaspeed vehicles at once. In your previous post, you said that the Solstice hopes to have a reputation and a following in years to come. I actually DO hope it does! I cannot agree with you more. I would love to see an American roadster with a following. You don't see much of a following in any American car unless it's a muscle car. (Vette, Mustang, Camaro). As much as I don't like Pontiac, I hope it does survive. But, I really don't think it will. You have accused me of not reading your posts, try reading mine as well. You do sound pretty bitter. I'm not bitter, I just love to debate 
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Replying to: logic1 (Feb 01, 2006 9:53 am) Oh, I knew exactly what you meant. My point was that we ALL think that when we post something, anything, in any topic, that we are clearly articulating our thoughts. That is not always the case. What you type, what you MEAN to articulate, and what is received on the other end are not always the same. And putting into a post that you wish others wouldn't misstate your 'clearly articulated' points is more than a bit condencending.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 01, 2006 11:20 am) I think Mazda will do a Mspeed MX-5 earlier. But you are entirely correct. I and those who agree with me are speculating. As much as I don't like Pontiac, I hope it does survive You may have a point. However, I think a Kappa like vehicle will be in the GM stable for many years. At least as long as they have an Internal Cumbustion Engine.
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Replying to: rorr (Feb 01, 2006 11:29 am) Point taken. 
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Replying to: logic1 (Feb 01, 2006 11:38 am)  
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Replying to: logic1 (Feb 01, 2006 11:38 am) Certainly possible. I'm curious; do you think they would do a Mazdaspeed version in response to the NA Solstice (that would be 'normally aspirated'  ) or in response to the GXP version? Personally, I don't think Mazda would do a Mazdaspeed version (soon) in response to the standard Solstice. The two cars are close enough in price/performance that they won't feel a lot of pressure to do a Mspeed quickly. Throwing the GXP into the mix is interesting because the decision to do a Mazdaspeed MX-5 may hinge on the selling price of the GXP. If the market price for the GXP is $30k+, then the GXP would be up against the S2000 rather than the Miata and Mazda wouldn't feel as much heat to put out a Mazdaspeed version quickly. However, if a GXP is on the market for around $25k, then I can see Mazda thinking about getting one out earlier. Given the current market on the base Solstice, I think it would be awhile before the market on GXP versions are around $25k. Which is one reason why I think it'll be awhile before Mazda does another Mazdaspeed MX-5. |
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