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Re: logic1 [logic1] by aviboy97
Feb 01, 2006 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 31, 2006 3:46 pm)

I believe you will see a MazdaSpeed MX-5 awfully soon. The new MX-5 only boosting sales by 400 cars nationwide does not bode well for dropping the MazdaSpeed option.
 

 
See, here's the problem. Your "belief" is not based on any fact. There has been NO such thing said from anyone at Mazda. There has not even been official word on the next Mazdaspeed vehicle, but, my Mazda rep has said unofficially the next Mazdaspeed vehicle is the Mazdaspeed3.
 
Now, about "dropping the Mazdaspeed option". Mazdaspeed is meant to be a limited production special edition. Mazdaspeed only does vehicles for 2 years (currently on the Mazdaspeed6...whatta car I must say!) With the new design of the MX-5, it was unnesessary to have the Mazdaspeed treatment. There will most likely be another Mazdaspeed MX-5 one day, but, we will have to wait and see.
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Re: avi [aviboy97] by logic1
Feb 01, 2006 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 01, 2006 10:37 am)

You seem to know when new designs were released, and sales stats but, in terms of race heritage, reputation or Mazdaspeed in the realm of the MX-5, you don't convey your "knowledge" very well. That is apparent by the many other readers leaving their comments towards what you are sharing with us.
 
You, and the two other posters (how two equates to many in your book is an interesting topic for another thread) are dead wrong on my knowledge.
 
In these threads I have been talking about one thing: amateur tuning in North America. In these threads, I have certainly acknowledges that the Miata has a popular North American amateur fan base built over the past 15 years.
 
My point was and remains, that Mazda does not have other cars anywhere near as popular as the Miata. In addition, I forwarded my theory that there is no reason the Solstice and its fellow Kappa cars will not enjoy a similar following over the years.
 
Rather than debate the point, you have brought up all sorts of things, including worldwide Mazda sales, Mazda professional racing, GM front wheel drive cars that I have not offered any opinion about.
 
Rather than point out the diversionary tactics you insist on using, your two friends have piled on against me - all apparently being fare in Miatas and wars.
 
You have no rational basis to your claim I know nothing about Mazda racing history. I have not discussed it with you. Unless you can demonstrate that you know me in person or have been secretly spying on me, you have yet again gone off on a plank.
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Re: logic1 [aviboy97] by logic1
Feb 01, 2006 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 01, 2006 10:55 am)

See, here's the problem. Your "belief" is not based on any fact. There has been NO such thing said from anyone at Mazda. There has not even been official word on the next Mazdaspeed vehicle, but, my Mazda rep has said unofficially the next Mazdaspeed vehicle is the Mazdaspeed3.
 
In Car and Driver's review of the MX-5, they say expect a MazdaSpeed version soon.
 
With the GXP already announced, I do not see how Mazda can afford not to come out with one.
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Re: logic1 [aviboy97] by logic1
Feb 01, 2006 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 01, 2006 10:55 am)

See, here's the problem. Your "belief" is not based on any fact.
 
Hey, how about that, you understand the concept of expressing ones belief!
 
Well, by golly, you have expressed your belief about future Kappa sales.
 
Is that also a problem?
 
Or are you allowed opinions and I am not?
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Re: logic1 [logic1] by aviboy97
Feb 01, 2006 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Feb 01, 2006 10:58 am)

In Car and Driver's review of the MX-5, they say expect a MazdaSpeed version soon.
 
That is an author with speculation trying to sell magazines. As I said before, NO such thing has been announced from Mazda. The earliest we might see one is 2010. Unless, they build 2 Mazdaspeed vehicles at once.
 
In your previous post, you said that the Solstice hopes to have a reputation and a following in years to come. I actually DO hope it does! I cannot agree with you more. I would love to see an American roadster with a following. You don't see much of a following in any American car unless it's a muscle car. (Vette, Mustang, Camaro). As much as I don't like Pontiac, I hope it does survive. But, I really don't think it will.
 
You have accused me of not reading your posts, try reading mine as well. You do sound pretty bitter. I'm not bitter, I just love to debate
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Re: MX-5 world sales 2005 [logic1] by rorr
Feb 01, 2006 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Feb 01, 2006 9:53 am)

"NA meaning North American. In context pretty clear, seeing as I said MX-5."
 
Oh, I knew exactly what you meant. My point was that we ALL think that when we post something, anything, in any topic, that we are clearly articulating our thoughts.
 
That is not always the case. What you type, what you MEAN to articulate, and what is received on the other end are not always the same. And putting into a post that you wish others wouldn't misstate your 'clearly articulated' points is more than a bit condencending.
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Re: logic1 [aviboy97] by logic1
Feb 01, 2006 (11:38 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 01, 2006 11:20 am)

That is an author with speculation trying to sell magazines. As I said before, NO such thing has been announced from Mazda. The earliest we might see one is 2010. Unless, they build 2 Mazdaspeed vehicles at once.
 
I think Mazda will do a Mspeed MX-5 earlier.
 
But you are entirely correct. I and those who agree with me are speculating.
 
As much as I don't like Pontiac, I hope it does survive
 
You may have a point. However, I think a Kappa like vehicle will be in the GM stable for many years. At least as long as they have an Internal Cumbustion Engine.
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Re: MX-5 world sales 2005 [rorr] by logic1
Feb 01, 2006 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Feb 01, 2006 11:29 am)

That is not always the case. What you type, what you MEAN to articulate, and what is received on the other end are not always the same. And putting into a post that you wish others wouldn't misstate your 'clearly articulated' points is more than a bit condencending.
 
Point taken.
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Re: MX-5 world sales 2005 [rorr] by aviboy97
Feb 01, 2006 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Feb 01, 2006 11:29 am)

true
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Re: logic1 [logic1] by aviboy97
Feb 01, 2006 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Feb 01, 2006 11:38 am)

Wow, we agree! It's a miracle!

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