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Replying to: ttbuyer (Jan 16, 2006 5:05 am) I can't seem to find it, but I believe the trunk release needs the battery to work. If not, only other ways for them to lock the trunk would be to disconnect the wire from the release button or pull fuse #18 from the underhood fuse box. |
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Replying to: sashajo (Jan 25, 2006 2:01 pm) Sounds more like a dealer issue, find a better one. During the months waiting for mine, my dealer let me take out a GTO and G6 GTP coupe. |
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Replying to: sashajo (Jan 25, 2006 2:01 pm) This complaint should be in a dealer issues forum. GM/Pontiac have no policy preventing test Solstice test drives. Even if GM/Pontiac wanted such a policy, and it stretches all bounds of credibility to think they would, federal law in place with little change since the Teddy Roosevelt Presidency make it illegal. Auto manufacturers sell their product to auto dealers. Once the dealer buys the product, the auto manufacturer has no right to tell the dealer how to price the product or to market it. Auto manufacturers can and do provide a msrp. They also can and do their best to educate dealers on the way they think product should be marketed. In the end, the dealer you encountered chose not to allow a test drive. The reason is clear. The dealer has a hot car it wants to sell at an inflated price. Many people may pay an inflated price for a car with 15 miles on the odo. Fewer will do so if there are 100 or even 50 miles on the odo. If you want to test drive, you should either look for a dealer less greedy, or watch for the next GM drive time program near you which I am sure will include a Solstice and/or Sky. |
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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 09, 2006 6:42 pm) I'm not sure you realize how big the MX-5 Miata is. They have their own racing circuit! I dont see a Kappa car circuit? Tuning a Pontiac is a waste of money, for the car will fall apart from what you do to it. Unless it's a 60's Firebird, or a GTO. The Mazda MX-5 is a PROVEN vehicle, and has PROVEN it can handle many mods and stay reliable. I have never seen that with Pontiac.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 31, 2006 8:40 am) Tuning a Pontiac is a waste of money, for the car will fall apart from what you do to it. Unless it's a 60's Firebird, or a GTO. The Mazda MX-5 is a PROVEN vehicle, and has PROVEN it can handle many mods and stay reliable. I have never seen that with Pontiac. Pretty weak argument. The Miata has a circuit some 15 years into its run. There already are multiple mods available for the Kappa cars. Where it took Mazda some 12 years before it figured out how to do a MazdaSpeed version of the Miata, Pontiac has a GXP ready in less than one year. Tuning a Pontiac is a waste of money, for the car will fall apart from what you do to it. Unless it's a 60's Firebird, or a GTO. Yeah. And the only Mazdas anyone tunes is the Miata.
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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 31, 2006 11:01 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 31, 2006 11:01 am) Weak?....WEAK?...I don't hear your dissagreeing with me? You can't POSSIBLY sit there and say "gee, my Pontiac is such a reliable, well built automobile" One thing I will say positive about the Solstice, it is a nice car, and I am VERY happy an American manufacturer has built a competitive roadster. Where it took Mazda some 12 years before it figured out how to do a MazdaSpeed version of the Miata, Pontiac has a GXP ready in less than one year. This next statement show how much you don't know about Mazda. Mazdaspeed has had race products in the Mazda MX-5 for quite some time, on the race track. There was no need for a Mazdaspeed MX-5 before 2004. Mazda has had the market cornered in this segment for 15 years. They gave the MX-5 the Mazdaspeed treatment to add performance, as well as test the market for a more performance driven vehicle in that segment. Now, GM is doing the GXP to try and build sales, as well as reputation. Mazda does not need to build anything. As I've stated before, the MX-5 is a PROVEN vehicle in it's segment. I would like to see evidence to dispute that. Do you have any? Yeah. And the only Mazdas anyone tunes is the Miata Oh boy, PLEASE do some homework before you speak.....Check out TRI-POINT Motorsports. You won't find those tuned Mazda's to have the MX-5 name on them. Also, have you ever heard of the 13b Rotary? Are you even aware that Mazda is the ONLY Japanese manufacturer to win at the 24 hr LeMans? And they did it with a Rotary!! Have you ever heard of the RX-7? One of the most popular, and saught out Jap. cars of the last 25 years! Now, Mazda has the RX-8. IT may not have the reputation of the RX-7, but, when they are purchased, many of them are tuned, and some are raced. Now, as to "tuning" Pontiac's, I see 60's or 70's tuned at car shows. I don't see anything made in the last 20 years with ANY respect other then a Firebird. You can't possilby give credit to a kid tuning a Pontiac Sunfire, or Sunbird. So, if you are going to make that arguement, please bring something more then what you said, PLEASE!
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Replying to: cargeek1 (Jan 31, 2006 11:40 am) I imagine people were tuning Pontiacs in the 1940s and 1950s, before there even was a Mazda on these shores. |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 31, 2006 12:15 pm) Pontiac's history has nothing to do with the Kappa platform or the ecotec engine. This next statement show how much you don't know about Mazda. Mazdaspeed has had race products in the Mazda MX-5 for quite some time, on the race track. There was no need for a Mazdaspeed MX-5 before 2004. Mazda has had the market cornered in this segment for 15 years. They gave the MX-5 the Mazdaspeed treatment to add performance, as well as test the market for a more performance driven vehicle in that segment If Mazda did not need it before, why does Mazda need it now? Now, GM is doing the GXP to try and build sales, as well as reputation. Mazda does not need to build anything. As I've stated before, the MX-5 is a PROVEN vehicle in it's segment. I would like to see evidence to dispute that. Do you have any? Again, it is a weak argument. Yes. The Solstice is a new car. If the best you can say about the Miata is the obvious statement that it has been around longer, you are not saying much. Are you even aware that Mazda is the ONLY Japanese manufacturer to win at the 24 hr LeMans? And they did it with a Rotary!! My definition of tuning is amateurs doing something in their garage. Not pro-race teams. Have you ever heard of the RX-7? One of the most popular, and saught out Jap. cars of the last 25 years! Now, Mazda has the RX-8. IT may not have the reputation of the RX-7, but, when they are purchased, many of them are tuned, and some are raced. In straight form, the RXs were somewhat popular. Maybe it is me, but they never seemed to be that big on the tuning market. The rotary engine has some very loyal fans. Otherwise it is pretty much despised. You can't possilby give credit to a kid tuning a Pontiac Sunfire, or Sunbird. So, if you are going to make that arguement, please bring something more then what you said Do not appreciate your putting words in my mouth. Another form of weak argument. I have never once made a positive comment about the performance dynamic of front wheel drive cars.
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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 31, 2006 12:24 pm) If Mazda did not need it before, why does Mazda need it now? I never said they needed it. Stop putting words in MY mouth. Since cars are always evolving, for manufacturers to stay competitive, they must evolve as well. All I see is evolution from Mazda. They know what they need to do to stay the leader of the segment of which they themselves resurrected. How is my statement of PROVEN success and PROVEN reliability weak? OR how about proven on the race track? I don't understand how that is weak? My definition of tuning is amateurs doing something in their garage. Not pro-race teams You said no one tunes Mazda's except for Miata's. You were wrong. In straight form, the RXs were somewhat popular. Maybe it is me, but they never seemed to be that big on the tuning market. The rotary engine has some very loyal fans. Otherwise it is pretty much despised. My best friend has a tuned 1994 RX-7, which he did in his garage, not professional. It has over 400hp. Maybe one reason you don't hear a whole lot about them is because there are not too many affordable and available. They are not like a Mustang, or a Camaro, which are everywhere and inexpensive. Plus, the rotary engine DOES scare people because they don't know how to work on it. Do not appreciate your putting words in my mouth. Another form of weak argument. I have never once made a positive comment about the performance dynamic of front wheel drive cars. I never put words in your mouth. I was stating that you can't argue that Pontiac has more "tuner" cars by stating the only tuned car is the Miata. I was giving my example of how it can be reversed on Pontiac. There are currently more "tuned" current production Mazda's then current production Pontiac's. From what I've seen and read. If I am wrong, then I wont have a problem being corrected. |
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