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GM courtesy transportation policy by pao
Jan 12, 2006 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 12, 2006 6:41 am)

straight from the owners manual:
 
Courtesy Transportation
To enhance your ownership experience, we and our participating dealers are proud to offer Courtesy Transportation, a customer support program for new vehicles.
 
The Courtesy Transportation program is offered to customers in conjunction with the Bumper-to-Bumper coverage provided by the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Several transportation options are available when warranty repairs are required. This will reduce your inconvenience during warranty repairs.
 
Scheduling Service Appointments
When your vehicle requires warranty service, you should contact your dealer and request an appointment. By scheduling a service appointment and advising your service consultant of your transportation needs, your dealer can help minimize your inconvenience.
 
If your vehicle cannot be scheduled into the service department immediately, keep driving it until it can be scheduled for service, unless, of course, the problem is safety-related. If it is, please call your dealership, let them know this, and ask for instructions.
 
If the dealer requests that you simply drop the vehicle off for service, you are urged to do so as early in the work day as possible to allow for the same day repair.
 
Transportation Options
Warranty service can generally be completed while you wait. However, if you are unable to wait, GM helps to minimize your inconvenience by providing several transportation options. Depending on the circumstances, your dealer can offer you one of the following:
 
Shuttle Service
Participating dealers can provide you with shuttle service to get you to your destination with minimal interruption of your daily schedule. This includes one-way or round trip shuttle service to a destination up to 10 miles (16 km) from the dealership.
 
Public Transportation or Fuel Reimbursement
If your vehicle requires overnight warranty repairs, reimbursement of public transportation expenses may be available, for up to a maximum of five days. In addition, should you arrange transportation through a friend or relative, reimbursement for reasonable fuel expenses may be available, up to a five-day maximum. Claim amounts should reflect actual costs and be supported by original receipts.
 
Courtesy Rental Vehicle
Your dealer may arrange to provide you with a courtesy rental vehicle or reimburse you for a rental vehicle that you obtain if your vehicle is kept for a warranty repair. Reimbursement will be limited to a maximum amount per day and must be supported by receipts. This requires that you sign and complete a rental agreement and meet state, local and rental vehicle provider requirements. Requirements vary and may include minimum age requirements, insurance coverage, credit card, etc. You are responsible for fuel usage charges and may also be responsible for taxes, levies, usage fees, excessive mileage or rental usage beyond the completion of the repair.
 
Generally it is not possible to provide a like-vehicle as a courtesy rental.
 
Additional Program Information
Courtesy Transportation is available during the Bumper-to-Bumper warranty coverage period, but it is not part of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. A separate booklet entitled Warranty and Owner Assistance Information furnished with each new vehicle provides detailed warranty coverage information.
 
Courtesy Transportation is available only at participating dealers and all program options, such as shuttle service, may not be available at every dealer. Please contact your dealer for specific information about availability. All Courtesy Transportation arrangements will be administered by appropriate dealer personnel.
 
Canadian Vehicles: For warranty repairs during the Complete Vehicle Coverage period of the General Motors of Canada New Vehicle Limited Warranty, alternative transportation may be available under the Courtesy Transportation Program. Please consult your dealer for details.
 
General Motors reserves the right to unilaterally modify, change or discontinue Courtesy Transportation at any time and to resolve all questions of claim eligibility pursuant to the terms and conditions described herein at its sole discretion.
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Re: Got my MX-5 [cargeek1] by pao
Jan 12, 2006 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: cargeek1 (Jan 12, 2006 8:47 am)

Glad they were able to fix it abeit a short delay due to wrong part.....take care
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Re: GM courtesy transportation policy [pao] by logic1
Jan 12, 2006 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: pao (Jan 12, 2006 8:49 am)

Courtesy Transportation
To enhance your ownership experience, we and our participating dealers are proud to offer Courtesy Transportation, a customer support program for new vehicles.
  
The Courtesy Transportation program is offered to customers in conjunction with the Bumper-to-Bumper coverage provided by the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Several transportation options are available when warranty repairs are required. This will reduce your inconvenience during warranty repairs.

 
Thanks.
 
The claim above to the contrary, Solstice owners will enjoy the same courtesy car privileges as the Miata owner.
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Re: GM courtesy transportation policy [logic1] by rorr
Jan 12, 2006 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 12, 2006 9:06 am)

"To enhance your ownership experience, we and our participating dealers..."
 
How does one determine if your dealer is a PARTICIPATING dealer? Are all Solstice dealers automatically a 'participating' dealer?
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Re: GM courtesy transportation policy [rorr] by logic1
Jan 12, 2006 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: rorr (Jan 12, 2006 1:15 pm)

No manufacturer in the US - this would include GM and Mazda, along with every other US brand - can bind its dealers to do anything.
 
That would be a violation of the Magnusnon Moss Act.
 
A dealer would only be bound by the language if it expressly agreed to do so.
 
However, as the language binds GM, meaning GM will pay for the loaner if the repairs are covered under warranty, I cannot imagine any circumstance where a Pontiac dealer will refuse to co-operate.
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U missed the point... by cargeek1
Jan 13, 2006 (2:43 pm)
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My point was the hassle factor was zero at Mazda, while at GM it's a pain. I've experienced the rental reimbursment with GM very recently when my Avalanche was in for service. The dealership did offer to reimburse me, but only after I pressed the issue. The reimbursment took a week because they told me they only cut checks once a week. Then I had to go to the bank and deposit the check. Which was another hassle so the check sat in my car for another few days until I could make it to the bank. Then the bank holds the check for 4 days until it cleared (Which I don't blame them for, I wouldn't trust a check from a GM dealer either...Just kidding...that's a joke! ) so all in all it took me about 2.5 weeks to get my rental reimbursment. At Mazda, I got a voucher from the dealer, their rental car partner came and picked me up, my rental contract was already filled out, I suspect the dealer had given them all my info. I signed the contract and was on my way. EASY...EASY...EASY...no money out of my pocket at all. As opposed to GM where it was a real pain in the ass!
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Re: U missed the point... [cargeek1] by rorr
Jan 13, 2006 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: cargeek1 (Jan 13, 2006 2:43 pm)

To be perfectly fair.....not all Mazda dealers are as good as the one you experienced, and not all GM dealers are as bad as you experienced.
 
IOW - YMMV
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Re: GM courtesy transportation policy [logic1] by ttbuyer
Jan 16, 2006 (5:05 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 12, 2006 9:06 am)

"The claim above to the contrary, Solstice owners will enjoy the same courtesy car privileges as the Miata owner."
 
I am sorry, but you are simply wrong. Read the GM blurb carefully. It says only that "your dealer MAY arrange to provide you with a courtesy rental vehicle". There is no obligation created on the dealer or on GM by this language.
 
Mazda (corporate) provides a loaner car if your Mazda is in for warranty repair. They offer it as part of the ownership package. The GM language is merely to console the unwary.
 
BTW I love the look of the Solstice, but after sitting in one at the LA Auto Show I have lost all interest. Cheap, tacky interior and seats that were both confining and unsupportive. I also noticed that the "trunk" was locked. Probably so no one could see how small it was/is.
 
Still, I have to applaud GM for building a little sports car. They didn't quite get it right, but they never do, do they?
 
I guess it will be enough to satisfy some people.
 
As for me, it's another Miata; Copper Red Metallic probably.
 
Courtesy Rental Vehicle
Your dealer MAY arrange to provide you with a courtesy rental vehicle or reimburse you for a rental vehicle that you obtain if your vehicle is kept for a warranty repair. Reimbursement will be limited to a maximum amount per day and must be supported by receipts. This requires that you sign and complete a rental agreement and meet state, local and rental vehicle provider requirements. Requirements vary and may include minimum age requirements, insurance coverage, credit card, etc. You are responsible for fuel usage charges and may also be responsible for taxes, levies, usage fees, excessive mileage or rental usage beyond the completion of the repair.
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Re: GM courtesy transportation policy [ttbuyer] by logic1
Jan 16, 2006 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: ttbuyer (Jan 16, 2006 5:05 am)

I am sorry, but you are simply wrong. Read the GM blurb carefully. It says only that "your dealer MAY arrange to provide you with a courtesy rental vehicle". There is no obligation created on the dealer or on GM by this language.
  
Mazda (corporate) provides a loaner car if your Mazda is in for warranty repair. They offer it as part of the ownership package. The GM language is merely to console the unwary.

 
Provide the Mazda language.
 
BTW I love the look of the Solstice, but after sitting in one at the LA Auto Show I have lost all interest. Cheap, tacky interior and seats that were both confining and unsupportive.
 
The interior of my NB Miata had some pretty brittle components.
 
I also noticed that the "trunk" was locked. Probably so no one could see how small it was/is.
 
Yes. As we know, most Roadster buyers are hoping the vehicle will sub for a Mini-Van. Presumably everyone at the show noted how clean the Solstice looked with the top down.
 
I guess it will be enough to satisfy some people.
 
What's the point of saying something like that? Especially, when, as shown above, the Kappa platform is the pick over the Mazda among the racing set.
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As it happens: by logic1
Jan 16, 2006 (6:55 am)
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I am still registered as a Miata owner at Mazda. It appears the full warranty booklet is no longer available. I did find this on the owners' portion of MazdaUSA:
 
No matter what comes your way, we’re ready to come to your aid 24/7/365 with just a phone call*. Got a flat tire? We'll help you change it. Locked your keys in the car? We’ll get you back inside. Need a jump-start? We've got the cables. Need a tow? We’ll get you to the closest Mazda dealership. We can even arrange for a rental car, book a hotel room and coordinate arrangements with your home or office**.
 
Best of all, every new Mazda owner is automatically enrolled in the Mazda Roadside Assistance program at no charge for the duration of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
 
* 1-800-866-1998 (hearing impaired: 800-999-9035)
** Please refer to the program brochure for details. Mazda Roadside Assistance does not include rental car or hotel expenses.

 
If car rental assistance is a given with Mazda, there would be no reason for the qualifications provided in this blurb.
 
I expect there are limits.
 
Which would conform with my very poor Mazda dealership experience, where the talk was always good but the follow through miserable. You were expected to love the car. Problems were to be ignored.

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