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Pontiac Solstice vs 2006 Mazda MX-5 Miata

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Re: on star required [mx5rules] by logic1
Jan 09, 2006 (6:42 pm)
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Replying to: mx5rules (Jan 09, 2006 11:39 am)

I'm not sure that talking about V-8 upgrades belongs on these pages
 
Makes as much sense as saying a modified Miata can beat a stock Solstice.
 
It is only a matter of time before an aftermarket turbo or supercharger is available for the 2006 MX5 and the gauntlet will be dropped once again only to be won by the Miata.
 
GM beat Mazda to market by announcing it will have the Turbo GXP available this Summer. There are already some good aftermarket components for the Kappa frame and the 2.4 ecotec.
 
Tuning is a labor of love. The Solstice and Sky will have a lot more love going for them than the blah MX-5. You will have to start hiding from a lot of tuned Kappa cars soon.
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Tried to Compare... by cargeek1
Jan 09, 2006 (11:38 pm)
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I went to the Pontiac Dlr where they actually had a Solstice available, I tried to drive it but they said no dice, they actually wanted me to buy the car without driving it. I can understand that they don't want everyone in town driving the car since they are so few available but It was obvious I was serious, I had my trade all cleaned up, even showed them that I had the title for my trade and I was serious but I had to drive the car, still no deal, Later the same day I returned to the dealer in my new MX-5. I stopped and went in to ask the salesman and the sales manager if they wanted to see my new car! They were pretty pissed and told me I had to leave the dealership, which I did laughing all the way. I love the MX-5, I have no idea if it drives better than the Pontiac or not since I couldn't even get a test drive in the Solstice. I hope all you Solstice guys enjoy your car as much as I enjoy my MX-5. And if I ever run into any of you I'm really anxious to ask about that truck tranny you guys got in that Solstice!
 
My parents sent me off to college in a new Mazda 323 back in 1986, and I drove the wheels off that car. When I finally got rid of it at 265,000 miles the AC was still cold and everything worked. The only thing I ever did to that car was put in a few clutches, brakes and replaced an alternator. Hopefully this Mazda will bring me the same kind of experience.
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Re: Tried to Compare... [cargeek1] by pao
Jan 10, 2006 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: cargeek1 (Jan 09, 2006 11:38 pm)

I fault the dealer for losing that sale to you....we bought the Sol sight unseen...but did get to sit and ride in one.....as well as drive and compare to the MX-5....we were happier with the Sol..for interior space...and comfort......its obvious you are happy with the MX-5 as we are with our Sol......
 
perhaps the dealership learned a lesson in salesmanship.....what I really hate is the dealers...placing the market prem on the car..and snubbing it in customers faces......again.customer loyalty....not immediate sales gratification.....an educated informed customer...is a smart one..but there is always someone with deep pockets...with that I just got have the new toy attitude..who will pay the premium...personally I hope all the pontiac dealers get stuck with their Sols...that are charging the high prem prices...and I highly doubt you will see a depreciated Sol at 10K anytime soon with the demand for this car......
 
as for getting trounced by another miata...come on over..I'll gladly let you beat me off the line..race down the road....Im not into that..I enjoy the car..for the simple top down driving experience.....so to both miata and sol owners....enjoy your cars!
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Re: Tried to Compare... [pao] by mx5rules
Jan 10, 2006 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: pao (Jan 10, 2006 5:31 am)

I've been ragging on the Solstice and GM pretty hard so far so maybe it's time to let up a little. It's about time that GM got out of the "build a bigger SUV" routine and started addressing the needs and desires of the market. Every article I have read recently points to the demise of GM by 2010 with Toyota finally surpassing market share at that time. It is going to be a sad day for America when the Asian economy is in control of the world and we are hat in hand. So, if the Solstice and Sky and similar American cars can finally provide the quality that has been sorely lacking in American production cars than I say it's a good thing for all of us. I hope everyone enjoys their respective cars. My last true sports car before buying the Miata was a Porsche 911 cabriolet. I owned that car for 10 years and enjoyed it immensely. Believe it or not, I am now enjoying this supercharged Miata even more than the Porsche since I am no longer faced with extremely high maintenance and down time that I had to endure with the Porsche. I hope the Solstice stays out of the shop long enough for all of you to enjoy it.
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Re: on star required [logic1] by audia8q
Jan 10, 2006 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Jan 09, 2006 6:42 pm)

GM beat Mazda to market by announcing it will have the Turbo GXP available this Summer
 
Big deal...anyone who know anything about the Miata's tremendous success knows it isnt about big horsepower and going faster than other cars. It's about a true pure roadster....nothing more. It's only a matter of time before GM tries to make the SOL a cheater corvette with big hp, all kinds of electronics, big price increases and fluff that true roadster buyers don't want.
 
This is essentially the mistake every Miata competitor has made...the don't understand the basics of a great roadster and why the Miata is the best selling roadster in history.
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Re: on star required [audia8q] by logic1
Jan 10, 2006 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: audia8q (Jan 10, 2006 9:33 am)

Big deal...anyone who know anything about the Miata's tremendous success knows it isnt about big horsepower and going faster than other cars. It's about a true pure roadster....nothing more. It's only a matter of time before GM tries to make the SOL a cheater corvette with big hp, all kinds of electronics, big price increases and fluff that true roadster buyers don't want.
 
Way to jump into the middle of a debate and take my stuff out of context.
 
My post was in response to MX5rules who owns a 1999 Mazda Miata tuned it, and is making a big deal about the speed advantage he allegedly has over a stock Solstice/Sky.
 
The MX5 is pretty packed with gizmos by the way, as was the NB Miata. Something I learned when my computer kept breaking down on me.
 
Your are also ignoring the MazdaSpeed Miata.
 
GM has said repeatedly it is committed to keeping the base Solstice pure. There is no reason to think it will not.
 
By the way, what Miata competitors? You had the Mr2 which was, in fact, a fairly simple car. The S2000 competes with the higher echelons. The BMW and Porsche (which is a big sales success) roadster are certainly not Mazda competitors either.
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Re: Tried to Compare... [mx5rules] by pao
Jan 10, 2006 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: mx5rules (Jan 10, 2006 9:27 am)

I think it will be a solid car....I hope not an over engineered one....but also concisder the Miata has had over a 10 year history to work out the initial bugs as well...and as I recall.....the first year they came out (90 or 91)..the craze was the same for it..hard to find...when you did...they brought a premium..until supply caught up with demand.... I believe the Sol...will keep is basic roadster roots that it has started..you can option it anyway you want..bare bones or fully loaded with the conveniences most american drivers want today.............the after market vendors will catch up..many are now...there is already CAIs, exhausts, catbacks, lowering springs on the market for the car.....
 
and remember this is a niche market....selling 10k units a year on the long run is the best I think any company can expect.....not every one wants, desires, or cares for a two seater roadster.....I will wave at every roadster owner I pass or am passed by...regardless of the model....cheers!
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Re: Tried to Compare... [pao] by carlisimo
Jan 10, 2006 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: pao (Jan 10, 2006 10:41 am)

Yeah, it's just great to see more roadsters out there, period. Any driver's car is a welcome sight during my commute.
 
I just noticed though... every time someone calls it a "Sol", I think of the Honda Civic Del Sol, which is not a good thing. But it was sort of a rival to the Miata in the 90s, so I'm sure that many Miata enthusiasts think "Del Sol" when they see "Sol".
 
Could we call abbreviate it to "Sols" instead?
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Re: Tried to Compare... [cargeek1] by cargeek1
Jan 10, 2006 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: cargeek1 (Jan 09, 2006 11:38 pm)

Just to show you guys that I'm not a basher....and since I posted for the first time my experience trying to compare. I want to fill you in on my MX-5's service visit today. I opened the hood just cuz I'm a total cargeek and I felt like it this morning and to my HORROR i found a thin film of oil covering everything...HMMM...not normal, so I took her in and showed the service advisor, who tried to convince me that it was the engine shine stuff they put on when the car is new...So I though to myself this guy is a freaking MORON and I asked to see the service manager, who agreed with me that what we were looking at was not normal. Mazda gave me a loaner car which I though was great even it it is a Chevy Malibu, and later in the afternoon the service advisor called me back and said the cam postion sensor was leaking and they had to order the part from mazda. hopefully they will have the part tomorrow and I'll have my car back by that afternoon. So I have experienced my first bug and I'm a bit embarrased after all the raving I've done about this car. OH...I've got 1748 miles on the clock.

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