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Sedans Toyota Camry Prius Vs Camry
29 messages, Last post on Sep 28, 2008 at 5:15 PM
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Replying to: bing8 (Jul 03, 2006 2:07 am)
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Replying to: mk004 (Feb 03, 2006 5:51 pm) Not true. According to toyota.com, the Camry blows it away in shoulder (2.5 inches in front; almost 4 inches in back) and hip room (3.5 in front; 2.5 in back); and the difference in legroom is hardly measurable (.2 in front and .3 in back). The Camry has superior rear headroom as well. Given those numbers, I'd rather be a passenger in the Camry. |
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Replying to: parnola (Jul 03, 2006 4:40 am) In July I suggested that the CVT transmission may not be as efficient and wished Camry Hybrid CVT's would be replaced with 5 or 6 speed auto's. (I now own a Camry Hybrid and it does not seem as efficient on mileage in highway driving...less than 34 (Rating 38hwy/40city) at 75MPH). I say the 6 speed 4 cyl camry is equal or better in highway (real) mileage than the Camry Hybrid. Motor Trend (May='07 issue) has just compared the CVT to the 4 speed auto yet Identical engine Altimas' in acceleration and mileage. The standard according to their test bettered the CVT in mileage by 2.2 mpg's (35.4 4spd to 33.2 CVT) in their Motor Trend 280 mile loop. The acceleration was a little quicker in the CVT car but as far as highway mileage...the CVT is less efficient than the standard 4 speed auto in this test. By the way I have my Camry Hybrid for sale. Thank you Bing
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Replying to: bing8 (Apr 07, 2007 11:15 am) As to mileage, the mileage spread between hybrid and ICE cars has always been greatest in stop and go driving, 16 mpg advantage versus 5 mpg in highway driving for Camry. At 70 mph I've had no trouble achieving at least 38 mpg in highway driving. I assume you've other complaints besides gas mileage to justify selling such a new car. Good luck. |
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Replying to: rksagi (Sep 20, 2005 7:10 pm) I own a V6 Camry because I drive mainly hwy miles, but even if my driving patterns changed, and I was able to justify and get payback from a hybrid vehicle, I sure wouldn't buy a Prius. The Camry is larger and is a normal car that just happens to be available in a hybrid version. Same goes for Civic, Accord, Altima, Highlander, and others. The Prius is just plain ugly and not very practical vehicle for most people. Just some things to consider.
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Replying to: neil0311 (Apr 08, 2007 12:53 pm) And just what is that? Given the Prius' outstanding reliability record, it may say something about the buyer's smarts in choosing a largely trouble-free car. Or, it may say that the buyer wants to reduce the money he sends via gasoline purchases to countries that hate us and subsidize terrorism. Oh, last month almost 20,000 people bought a Prius, a sign I guess that "ugly" has become cool. LOL
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Replying to: neil0311 (Apr 08, 2007 12:53 pm) I do want to be seen driving around in a Prius. It sends a message: "I am careful and thoughtful so I bought this car and I DO care about the environment." Rather than "I'm driving this (insert make and model of performance car, SUV, Minivan, or PU here) because I don't care about you and the environment. I have a right to excessive consumption.  As far as practical, the Prius body design is one of the most efficient I've seen. Seats four in fine comfort, five makes the three in the rear a little pinched side to side. Lots of legroom though. Prius will carry as much or more than most SUVs re cargo. It will carry 14' long items. Please advise why you think this isn't practical. |
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Replying to: pathstar1 (Apr 09, 2007 8:09 am) I drive almost 90% hwy miles, so for me, a hybrid is a complete waste. My car gets 29 - 31 on the hwy and also provides me comfortable, powerful, and reliable transportation that doesn't look like someting from Lost in Space. I have a wife and 3 kids, so comfort and interior room is more than just an academic point. I'm not against hybrids generally, if they make sense. Many people who buy a hybrid do so without any need to. If you drive in low speed stop-and-go traffic, then a hybrid is great. If you drive in moderate to high speed traffic on the hwy, then it's a complete waste. This smug political nonesense that somehow anyone who doesn't drive a Prius doesn't care and is just a polluting cretan is just crap. If you want to drive a Prius, do so, but please don't make false assumptions about my or others motivation.
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Replying to: neil0311 (Apr 09, 2007 10:55 am) I'm not making any assumptions, but, like it or not, those assumptions I posted are the way it's going. The bandwagon is officially in motion, and the news reports over the last three or four weeks are giving momentum. As an aside I'm chuckling over, if one of the super volcanoes in the world (such as Yellowstone) erupt, "global warming" will go away big time. There are several due or overdue, based on previous cycle times. Of course we can't go on assuming that will happen, but it's humorous to consider anyway. Owner reported Prius highway mileage is higher that you apparently think. Most get at least 45, some above 50. It's short trips that mainly kill mileage in the Prius, less than 5 miles. Just for entertainment, you should go to a Toyota dealer and look at a Prius. I think you will be surprised at how roomy it is inside. Especially the rear seat room. From the outside it looks like a small car - like a Corolla. Once you are sitting inside you think it's a Camry. At least that was my impression, backed up by the spec. sheets. I have a spreadsheet I did comparing all four hybrids I'm looking at, Prius, Camry, Civic, and Altima. It's metric, with Canadian pricing, but I'm willing to share it if anyone wants it. You can modify it as you like. It's done in "Open Office". I still like the Prius as it's in the lead mileage and environment wise. The battery, BTW, is not an environmental disaster like certain stories on the Internet and in the news contend. It's fully recyclable. Nickle is easily reused. The electrolyte is just potassium hydroxide with a little sodium hydroxide as well. Easily dealt with. Much more benign than lead acid batteries. The mines have been disaster areas in the past, but have been cleaned up emission wise. Blaming the "deserts" they created on Toyota or Prius as certain Internet postings and news reports have done, is just silly, however. When that occurred Toyota was just starting to make cars, was never involved in the mines, and hybrids were 30 years from even being thought of. Current nickle production is no worse than steel or other metal refining operations. |
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Replying to: pathstar1 (Apr 09, 2007 8:09 am) No offense intended, but you're kidding aren't you? It's a nice little car, but don't buy it for cargo. Buy it so you can feel good about not polluting the environment because you are paying a premium to get the better mileage. And thats if you know how to drive them to get that mpg. Out here in California they are driving 85+ mph in the carpool lanes when they have a sticker on them. So now is a good time to buy one as they are in less demand due to not being able to get a sticker anymore as well as the reduced tax credit. What is Toyota doing at the moment, super low financing to entice buyers to buy a Prius? But put four people in one with four suitcases and then tell us how you like the cargo room. Cheers!
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