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#469 of 488 Re: 2009 Honda Civic or VW Jetta? [BilKop] by thegraduate Dec 04, 2008 (12:28 pm)
Replying to: BilKop (Dec 02, 2008 10:37 am) The cost of maintenance on the VW will be notably higher; just call some dealers and ask how much some of the services cost (oil change, transmission fluid change, brake job, etc...). It's worth investigating.   May I ask why you've limited your choices to the Civic and Jetta? There are some excellent vehicles out there in this price range if you aren't comfortable with purchasing either one.
#470 of 488 my 2 cents by tupuc Dec 05, 2008 (6:34 pm)
Those who are debating whether to buy a Civic or a Jetta / a Civic Si or a GTI, go and buy a Honda pleaseeee I currently own a Jetta generation IV and I'm about to guy a 2009 Civic LX-S because of that. VW's are not total but I've pretty much spend around 2000 dlls on reparations during the 5 years I've had it , this doesn't count the services.   VW's are really nice and super fast but even the tiniest issue will cost you an arm and a leg, on the other hand if you are filthy rich , buy yourself a VW or an Audi
#471 of 488 2005 Jetta 2.5 lease-buy or turn in? by fleased Feb 18, 2009 (11:57 am)
My lease is up in a couple of months. Mileage is 35k and the car has been fantastic so far. Residual is 10k-ish. I'm tempted to buy it, but I own a 2003 Passat and it's been rough on the old banky balancer. That too was a lease and the car was flawless until I bought it, and since then it's cost me an arm and a leg (thermostat,oil sludge etc). Has the 2005 Jetta got a better reputation as far as reliability goes? I know it's a gamble either way. I wonder if I should just turn it in and buy something else new (Honda/Hyundai perhaps?) Any feedback/tips/warnings would be gratefully received. Cheers then, Steve R. Replies to this message: backy (Feb 18, 2009 1:10 pm) bvdj84 (Feb 19, 2009 1:31 pm) fleased (Feb 19, 2009 2:07 pm) erickpl (Mar 27, 2009 12:44 pm)
#472 of 488 Re: 2005 Jetta 2.5 lease-buy or turn in? [fleased] by backy Feb 18, 2009 (1:10 pm)
Replying to: fleased (Feb 18, 2009 11:57 am) First, 10k is a very good price for a 2005.5 Jetta with 35k. But even then you can see if there is any room to negotiate on the purchase price--should be possible if the lease is through VW. Second, the New Jetta has a pretty good reliablity record, e.g. CR says it's Average for the 2005.5. Average isn't great, but considering they also say the predicted reliability of a new Camry is Average, maybe that's not too bad. If you like the car, it's been reliable for you, and you know exactly how it's been treated and maintained, it might be the best used car you could buy. Maybe check out what your VW dealer can do for you on an extended warranty--then you'd have the peace of mind of a warranty plus be able to keep your Jetta. Anyway, IMO the Jetta is at least as good if not better than comparable cars from Honda (Civic) or Hyundai (Elantra). Against the Elantra in particular, the Jetta is a more fun-to-drive and safer car. Replies to this message: bvdj84 (Feb 19, 2009 1:31 pm) fleased (Feb 19, 2009 2:07 pm) erickpl (Mar 27, 2009 12:44 pm)
#473 of 488 Re: 2005 Jetta 2.5 lease-buy or turn in? by bvdj84 Feb 19, 2009 (1:31 pm)
Replying to: backy (Feb 18, 2009 1:10 pm) comparing the Elantra to a Jetta? lol wow. I am not sure I would.   Both Civic and VW are nice. I have an 08 Jetta!! Love it! But, expensive to maintain, no issues yet, but that oil change sets you back some change. Replies to this message: fleased (Feb 19, 2009 2:07 pm) erickpl (Mar 27, 2009 12:44 pm)
#474 of 488 Re: 2005 Jetta 2.5 lease-buy or turn in? [bvdj84] by fleased Feb 19, 2009 (2:07 pm)
Replying to: bvdj84 (Feb 19, 2009 1:31 pm) Thanks for the feedback. I meant to say "Sonata" rather than Elantra. The Sonata seems like a fair bit of car for the price, especially with the cash-back deal. I think I'm a little gun-shy with the VWs; I have a fear of being stuck paying for two of them and driving while holding my breath!
#475 of 488 Just bought 2009 Jetta TDI Wagon with DSG by dieselbreath Mar 19, 2009 (10:30 pm)
other than the fact that I'm 6'5" and don't fit into most Japanese cars easily, most of the extra weight of a Golf or Jetta compared to a Civic (Rabbit is 300 pounds heavier) is more steel protecting your a$$ in an accident. Civic's are OK head-on (the stuff they have to make strong to meet Federal rules) but when hit in the side or rear they are ... not very good (but better than, say, a Cavalier/Cobalt). Of all the fatal car accidents near Vancouver one winter, half the vehicles that people died in were Civics.   As an RCMP mountie whose job is highway patrol in the mountains said to me: "I'd rather be in a German car with a seat-belt than a Japanese apple-crate with an air-bag" ... and this guy has lots of firsthand knowledge of "real car-crash tests".
#476 of 488 Comparing the 2009 RABBIT and CIVIC by dieselbreath Mar 19, 2009 (10:34 pm)
Here are some notes from Edmund's 'car-comparison feature that I sent to a friend who is upset that he had to take his Golf into the dealer for a repair at 140,000 kms:   You know how our rain varies, and you're always changing the variable intermittent wipers to match? No problem on a Honda ... variable intermittent is not available! (just one intermittent delay for the world)   Lets check the other features:   VW: Twin cams, Honda: single cam   AUDIO 10 speakers in VW, 4 speakers in Honda   INTERIOR VW: Black or Tan. Honda: Grey or .... grey   The following is a list of VW Rabbit features (standard unless optional specified) optional sunroof: Not Available on Honda Civic intermittent wiper: Not Available on Honda Civic rear wiper: Not Available on Honda Civic heated seats: Not Available on Honda Civic split-folding rear seat: Not Available on Honda Civic remote power locks: Not Available on Honda Civic One-touch power windows: Not Available on Honda Civic heated mirrors: Not Available on Honda Civic power-adjusted mirrors: Not Available on Honda Civic Cruise control: Not Available on Honda Civic Speed Proportional power steering: Not Available on Honda Civic rear cup-holders: Not Available on Honda Civic cargo-area tie-downs: Not Available on Honda Civic power-outlet, cargo area: Not Available on Honda Civic center console: Not Available on Honda Civic rear-seat "easy entry" (front seat slides out of the way in 2-door model) Not Available on Honda Civic optional floor mats: Not Available on Honda Civic cargo area mats: Not Available on Honda Civic external temp. indicator: Not Available on Honda Civic   SAFETY FEATURES rear disc brakes: Not Available on Honda Civic (except SI ... which is a pile more money) brake assist: Not Available on Honda Civic traction control: Not Available on Honda Civic stability control: Not Available on Honda Civic signals in mirrors: Not Available on Honda Civic remote anti-theft alarm system: Not Available on Honda Civic   So, for the same price, the Civic has 1/2 the features of a base Rabbit, and isn't as safe. (of the extra-high safety rated cars, 1/2 are VW/Audis)   No wonder the Japanese are profitable!   Just thought you'd like an apples-to-apples comparison. Replies to this message: backy (Mar 20, 2009 7:57 am) thegraduate (Mar 20, 2009 8:22 am) backy (Mar 20, 2009 8:30 am) and 1 more...
#477 of 488 Re: Comparing the 2009 RABBIT and CIVIC [dieselbreath] by backy Mar 20, 2009 (7:57 am)
Replying to: dieselbreath (Mar 19, 2009 10:34 pm) There are several inaccuracies in your post. e.g. moonroof is standard on the Civic EX trims, as is intermittant wiper (all), as are remote power locks, power mirrors, cruise, center console (all trims but base?), floor mats are standard on Civic I think, stability control is available on upper-end trims on Civic.   Also re an earlier post re side crash safety, the Civic got "Good" (best") on the tough IIHS side impact crash test, so it is no slouch there. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Mar 20, 2009 8:22 am) backy (Mar 20, 2009 8:30 am) dieselbreath (Mar 20, 2009 5:46 pm)
#478 of 488 Re: Comparing the 2009 RABBIT and CIVIC [backy] by thegraduate Mar 20, 2009 (8:22 am)
Replying to: backy (Mar 20, 2009 7:57 am) There are several inaccuracies in your post. e.g. moonroof is standard on the Civic EX trims, as is intermittant wiper (all), as are remote power locks, power mirrors, cruise, center console (all trims but base?), floor mats are standard on Civic I think, stability control is available on upper-end trims on Civic.   All of what you say is true for US models, but maybe its different in Canada on SOME things. However, I'm looking at Honda-Canada's website for my info on the Civic, not VWs. To our friend who posted earlier, check out this link. It'll prove VW is untruthful/misinformed about the Civic. Click here to see it! Disc Brakes? Heated Leater Seats? Rear Armrest with Cupholders? Stability Control? Variable-Speed Intermittent Wipers? Yep, all available. I'd list more, but don't have the time to do so.   Not picking a fight here, just trying to help you be more informed.   Best regards, TheGraduate Replies to this message: backy (Mar 20, 2009 8:30 am) dieselbreath (Mar 20, 2009 5:46 pm)

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