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Honda Civic vs Volkswagen Jetta

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Re: I'm imagining one thing [erickpl] by thegraduate
Mar 07, 2007 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: erickpl (Mar 07, 2007 10:36 am)

I can almost see not wanting to be in that kind of car again after such a bad wreck, and I can't help but wonder if I'd feel the same way. Although, if she were hit and hurt like that in a VW, I wonder if she'd be looking at a Honda?
 
It sounds more mental than practical (although VWs are very safe, heavy cars) that she would want a different kind of car.
 
In 1995, my grandmother was hit at 55 MPH in the passenger side of her 1991 Civic DX. She had only bruises from her seatbelt and a bump on the head from hitting the window glass. The fact that it held up so well from a hit at that speed made her want ONLY a Honda after that. The car was totaled, but she walked away.
 
I don't say this to talk about the Civic's integrity, because that is really hard to debate on these models that aren't made anymore. I say it, to say that it is a mental thing. "This car kept me safe so I won't buy anything else" is likely as common as "I got hurt in this car so I'll never buy it again," even if a different car may have gotten them much more injured. It's not logical, but it is how we as humans work. Not saying you or your daughter are wrong in any way, just trying to give a little outsider's perspective (and just one perspective, at that).
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Re: I'm imagining one thing [thegraduate] by erickpl
Mar 07, 2007 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 07, 2007 10:54 am)

I imagine your analysis is correct. If she gets popped in the VW, she may very well go down the "It saved me and that is all I'll drive" road or "I got hurt, so forget VW's entirely now" road.
 
My dad was t-boned in 04 in a Mazda 626 (pre 6) and won't drive one again, even with side bags being available (his didn't have em).
 
My wife had an accident in 05 where her car went airborne due to excessive speed (long story), she came down and went into a phone pole that had been converted to a fence post at probably something between 50-60 mph. She walked away with no scratches, a few bruises, a sore throat (from the airbag dust), and that's it. We put her in another one just like it.
 
I think you hit the nail on head as to why she didn't want another Honda (or Acura) - it hurt her and didn't protect her as well as it could/should have.
 
She called me a couple of hours ago after driving to and from school, saying how much she loves her new car. She just got it yesterday and is already outside washing it. Gotta love black. hehe
 
BTW my 99si was black too. NEVER AGAIN even though black cars are darn nice looking for the 5 minutes they're clean after a wash.
 
-Paul
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Re: I'm imagining one thing [erickpl] by thegraduate
Mar 07, 2007 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: erickpl (Mar 07, 2007 11:31 am)

Black IS a NIGHTMARE to keep clean (and over the years shows scratches quite well), but looks darn good when it is shiny... like a Tuxedo on wheels. I tend to like cars that are colors (I have a red and a blue/gray one), so they aren't exactly easy to keep clean, as say a silver or gold car would be.
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Re: I'm imagining one thing [thegraduate] by ruking1
Mar 07, 2007 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 07, 2007 10:54 am)

You guys are making a good case for SUV's!
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Re: I'm imagining one thing [ruking1] by erickpl
Mar 07, 2007 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 07, 2007 12:45 pm)

Can you say Tourag (however you spell the darn thing), Q7, X5, X3, or Cayenne S?
 
-Paul
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Faster wear by ruking1
Mar 07, 2007 (7:24 pm)
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So far two consumeables on the Honda are wearing 2x faster than on the Jetta: alignment and tires. Both cars were baselined at each respective dealer when new. I needed an alignment at app 42,000 miles with the Honda. Tires while very evenly worn, do not look like they will go past 55k. The Jetta so far with 89,000 miles has not needed an alignment and the tires will probably go 120k to 130k. The Jetta is run on the highways at higher sustained speeds than the Honda.
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Re: Faster wear [ruking1] by thegraduate
Mar 07, 2007 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 07, 2007 7:24 pm)

I'm a little confused, your Jetta is run on the highways more than the Honda?
 
My 1996 Accord went 141k miles before ever having brake pads put on the car. I still have the orignal rear ones. It ran lots of highway miles.
 
I'm curious if your Honda is run on the same route as the VW, your post almost makes it sound like it might be (the highway comment) or you may just drive it faster; I wasn't really clear on that.
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Re: Faster wear [thegraduate] by ruking1
Mar 07, 2007 (8:24 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 07, 2007 8:17 pm)

Actually correct. It is the one that we use when we do longer trips and cross country. It has been R/T'd cross country.
 
Yes the daily commute is EXACTLY the same route. During the RUSH HOUR commute, it is HARD (and actually dangerous to drive one faster or slower than another. So I apologize if that was not too clear.
 
On the brakes for sure the rears will run 125k on the Jetta. I actually think the fronts will go at least that, but am prepared to do the rotor and pad change when and if needed, as the fronts do the majority of the braking.
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Re: Faster wear [ruking1] by thegraduate
Mar 07, 2007 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 07, 2007 8:24 pm)

Then it sounds to me like the Honda lives the more abused life. More cornering comes to your Honda (it ONLY does your city commute, whereas your Jetta gets to split that with long straight highway trips). Also, if your city is anything like Birmingham, AL where I live, the roads in town are much worse than those outside of town, bumpy and pothole filled vs. smooth 70 MPH interstates.
 
So, with that stated, your post seems logical. The car getting more (abuse isn't a good word) stress will be wearing faster (the Honda). Highways are a velvet pillow for a car. They stay at optimum operating temperature, you don't stop and go, you don't use the brakes (much!), and you don't corner at all. You're Jetta gets all the treadmill time, while your Civic is doing the triathalon.
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Re: Faster wear [thegraduate] by ruking1
Mar 07, 2007 (8:36 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 07, 2007 8:28 pm)

I would agree with you, except for the fact the Jetta has double the miles on the (same) commute than the Honda. We do take the Honda on highway trips, but shorter highway trips such as 1000 mile r/t. In that commute, the Civic is the gas guzzler with 38-42. The Jetta gets 48-51.

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